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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/12/2010 6:59:54 PM

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Pats Defense looked good the first half, wasn't sure what to expect with pretty much a new secondary. They seemed to tire out in the second half. And Welker being back made my day.

So next week we face the currently unfeated :

J E T S

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/13/2010 4:30:47 PM

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I was almost late to work last night because I stayed to see the end of SNF but it's always worth it to be a few minutes late if it means getting to see the Cryboys lose.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/13/2010 7:14:15 PM

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I'm not following all the people who said the Pats looked great. They got two gift TD's and won by two TD's--against an overrated team. I think their defense looked porous and I don't like their chances against the top teams in the AFC.

There's obviously something wrong with the Cowboys. A team with that much talent shouldn't struggle the way they do, and I'm starting to wonder why they keep sticking with Wade Phillips. OK, yeah, their offensive line sucks (and cost them the game yesterday), but whose fault is that anyway?

Meanwhile I'm at the edge of my seat with the cardiac Jets here.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/13/2010 8:39:32 PM

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Good road win for the Ravens who continue to play good defense (like the Steelers).

Anquan Boldin looks like a MONSTER ACQUISITION. Even Kurt Warner got excited sitting at home in retirement watching him.

The Ravens tried their best with two fumbles, one INT, a botched punt return, and bad play calling in the final two minutes to hand Rex Ryan the victory, but his team was simply too inept.

I would classify the JETS performance as **embarrassing** in their home opener. The Giants will be getting the press later in the season.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/13/2010 8:42:28 PM

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It's all about the Green & Gold.

Packers Super Bowl Victors!

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 4:31:01 AM

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If the Jets' performance was really all that embarrassing, the Ravens should have won by more than one point. The Jets' main problem, of course, is that they can't move the ball. And if they had committed 13 penalties instead of 14, they would have won the game.

I do think Boldin was a very good acquisition. (And I think the Cardinals are going to suck for a while now, even though they squeaked past St. Louis on Sunday.)

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Good road win for the Ravens who continue to play good defense (like the Steelers).

Anquan Boldin looks like a MONSTER ACQUISITION. Even Kurt Warner got excited sitting at home in retirement watching him.

The Ravens tried their best with two fumbles, one INT, a botched punt return, and bad play calling in the final two minutes to hand Rex Ryan the victory, but his team was simply too inept.

I would classify the JETS performance as **embarrassing** in their home opener. The Giants will be getting the press later in the season.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 3:57:16 PM

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All I can say is that they looked pretty sloppy and confused a good part of the game. Which surprised me, I was waiting to see what all the pundints have been forcasting.
So... I hope your Jets get themselves together and get some mojo going.......

but not until week 3

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 5:42:41 PM

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Here's a pretty cool article on OchoCinco.

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Ochocinco steps up to the plate... the dinner plate.

Outspoken Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco made good on his Twitter promise to take a Patriots fan out to dinner while he was in town for the Patriots-Bengals season opener. On Saturday, Ochocinco took season ticket holder Will DiTullio and his wife Julianne out to dinner in Providence.

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2010/09/patriots_fan_ha.html?rss_id=Top+Stories

I read in another article that he is going to do somethng like this for each away game.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 5:47:43 PM

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It's all about the Green & Gold.

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I'm hoping so. Maybe not this year though. But, Rodgers, if he stays with Green Bay, probably has at least one very large, shiny ring in his future.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 7:09:10 PM

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I did not see the Jets-Ravens game being as close as the score indicated. Jets need to be concerned about their inability to move the ball and those penalties. They have time to right the ship, question is will they implode? As much as I dislike the Ravens, I love watching them play,

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 8:29:25 PM

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I would classify the performance as embarrassing considering their own hype machine about being a super bowl contender. The defense looked stout, but Cromartie and Wilson look like liabilities in single coverage.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 8:41:31 PM

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As a Packer fan I cannot acknowledge the strengths of any other teams. Ony because they are so inferior.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/14/2010 9:58:18 PM

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Wilson is a rookie, and I think just about any rookie cornerback is going to be a liability in single coverage. Cromartie is nowhere near as good as Revis, but he did have a big interception and return. He didn't look like a liability to me.

Guys, I think there was a LOT wrong with the Jets last night, but they damn near won that game, and many of the mistakes they made are correctible. For what it's worth, I did not really agree with all 14 of the penalty calls, and any one of them would have changed the final outcome. But anyway, the main point is that I don't quite understand why everyone seems to think they played horribly. All the Tuesday morning quarterbacking today was about how the Jets looked like crap on the field. If they were really so crappy, how did they nearly beat one of the best teams in football? The Ravens wouldn't have had more than 3 points without Jet penalties to keep bailing them out. I think the Jets are going to be right there at the end.

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I would classify the performance as embarrassing considering their own hype machine about being a super bowl contender. The defense looked stout, but Cromartie and Wilson look like liabilities in single coverage.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 5:21:16 AM

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But anyway, the main point is that I don't quite understand why everyone seems to think they played horribly.

I think the Jets are going to be right there at the end.

I think it's because of all the hype due to aquisitions and high expectations, Rexy's big mouth and that show they were on. The media crowned them before the season began so the public expected Secretariat coming out of the gate. As I said, I think they looked sloppy and I agree a couple of the penalties were suspect at best .

I agree, I don't think the performance Monday night is a measuring stick as to how their season will go. I don't think that is the performance we will see all season. One problem I see is with Ryan. He took no responsibilty for poor coaching at his presser *. He mentioned all the faults in the loss, except coaching. Like his Dad he makes a game plan and sticks to it, doesn't matter if it needs tweeking, he's gonna stick to it. <Game plan -good, execution-poor, there fore coaches-good, team-bad >. If your team isn't executing your game plan, then you need to make adjustments. His Dad was stubborn that way too. We < Pats > are facing you this Sunday, and believe me, I take no comfort in the performance of the Jets on Sunday. I'm of the opinion they may just be pissed enough and embarassed enought to come out like a house of fire.

On a side note: Too bad about Jenkins. I hate to see injuries like that. His career probably ended Monday night. I'm sure Jets fans feel the same way we did when Harrison went down for the last time. In the same way we did, I think your defense will suffer a little bit from that loss.

* I say Rexy took no responsibility based on his presser. I don't get the NY news, so maybe he has since the game.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 6:33:40 AM

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All I can say is that they looked pretty sloppy and confused a good part of the game. Which surprised me, I was waiting to see what all the pundits have been forecasting.

Didn't surprise me. After watching this year's installment of "Hard Knocks" on HBO I really don't expect much of anything from the Jets. I know they did very well last year but they didn't impress on camera.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 12:20:11 PM

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The question with the JETS is, are they still limited to GROUND AND POUND or not? G&P can lead one to a 9-7 or 11-5 record, but its not well suited to winning the SB.

The football writer for the SUN claimed Ryan got outcoached, and I will concede that the Ravens were lucky to win. Maybe not so much lucky, though, as being handed the "W."

As a Ravens fan, I must say it was new experience being the beneficiary of so many penalties; usually these officiating advantages are reserved for the ultra passing teams with super star QBs like NE and IND. (This will be another factor working against the NYJ.)

Ticky tack penalties played a major role in in BAL's losses to NE, CIN, and IND last year.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 2:49:06 PM

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"Ground and pound" is fine if you have a first-rate defense and a quarterback who can get at least SOME first downs. That's how the '85 Bears and '86 Giants did it, after all--oh, and the Steelers in 2005 too, come to think of it. (Edited to add: And how could I forget the 2000 Ravens? That's the team the Jets are modeled on!) Of course, Sanchez is nowhere near as good as Phil Simms or even Jim McMahon, at least not right now. But I'm not going to agree that "ground and pound" is generally unsuited to winning a Super Bowl.

By the way (for mbmn): I didn't see the media anointing the Jets during the off-season. The AFC picks that I heard most often were Ravens, Steelers, and Colts. In fact, I recall that the Colts had the best preseason Las Vegas odds of any team, though I remember thinking that was kinda silly. What I heard was the Jets talking a lot, and the media murmuring about how it had to be a bad idea to talk so much.

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The question with the JETS is, are they still limited to GROUND AND POUND or not? G&P can lead one to a 9-7 or 11-5 record, but its not well suited to winning the SB.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 3:24:28 PM

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I live up here in the Boston area. The media/press/sportstalk was all about the 2010 Jets being a powerhouse to be contended with this season. Maybe it's because NY teams are our arch rival. I don't recall any actual SB predictions, but they were heavily favored to take the AFC East and get deep into the playoffs, if not the AFC Champs.

I don't take any of that too seriously. We have been favored for years, it means nothing until the games are played on the field. And how a team performs in September really isn't any indication of how they will be playing in November when things are getting down to the wire.

Yep there was alot of talk about the Jets talking. I don't really care about that. I kinda like hearing any team < except mine > shooting their mouths off. It's entertaining. And I don't mean that as a Pats are better than anyone comment. I mean it that any fan doesn't really like their own team to talk too much smack. But if the other team does, it's entertaining.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 5:35:33 PM

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The rules have changed since 2000. Billick's on record saying that his 2000 team might not be equipped to win a SB with today's new offensive minded rules.

The 2005 Steelers had Roethelsberger at QB and he was particularly effective during the regular season and the playoffs.

As most pundits say, "its a pass-happy league."

For what its worth, the Ravens have never beaten the Colts during the Peyton Manning era. Typically IND shoots out to a lead and then the Ravens are ill equipped to catch up. The Jets faced a similar problem in the 09 playoffs notwithstanding their halftime lead.

Not sure that you can compare the Jets defense to either the 85 Bears or the 00 Ravens.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 9/15/2010 6:25:45 PM

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Well, Brian Billick doesn't know whether his 2000 team would win a Super Bowl today because it's an unanswerable question. Roethlisberger was an efficient passer in 2005, I'll give you that, but don't forget that he threw for 2385 yards all season. So he was hardly the Roethlisberger of today. The '05 Steelers were a "ground and pound" team.

I'm certainly not going to agree that a "ground and pound" team can't win a Super Bowl under today's rules, but I guess you won't believe it until it happens.

Anyway, there's plenty of football left and I'm very curious to see how the Jets do against the Patriots next week. I think Baltimore is going to clobber the overrated Bengals.

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