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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 9:31:38 AM   
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This is absolutely crazy because, why would United solution be to kill this program,


Perhaps because they do not want to deal with loudmouth social justice warriors like yourself. Simply tell you to fuck off. See how simple that is.


rather than to stop discriminating against Women wearing Form Fitting clothings as something as unacceptable?

The rules apply to the bois as well as the gurls


They aren't freaking Taliban.

That must be it. They are secret islamist, like obama, out to get you.

As for free shit a company gives you. Every company got their own employee benefits is at their discretion. But when they choose to give it.

It's like if I work in a restaurant, and then I get maybe a free dinner in the restaurant i work in for like my birthday as a perk as an employee. Should they treat me lower than dirt of a regular customer, just because the meal was free?

If you do not like it quit...applebees can find another waitress.

What bullshit is this philosophy?

Why should they be grateful about the free tickets? It's part of their employee package!

Cite please.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 9:37:26 AM   
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Perhaps because they do not want to deal with loudmouth social justice warriors like yourself. Simply tell you to fuck off. See how simple that is.

In a PR disaster perspective, this would be the the even more stupid move to do, IF they want to fix this PR disaster.

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Why should they be grateful about the free tickets? It's part of their employee package!
Cite please.

Why are you asking for stupid cite when this is an example of an employee getting free flights on UA for just being an Employee of UA! Because it's part of his job package!

This wasn't a Dinner and Dance lucky draw or something ya know!

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 9:44:23 AM   
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Fuck this is like fucking Taliban!

Yup, you're still an idiot.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 9:46:25 AM   
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I always hear US Airports are horrible and terrible.


I always hear that you are a moron.


Generally the service at our Airports is seriously good. We aren't the world's number 1 or number 2 airport


Cite please.


if we had attitude like the ones at the Denver airport, targeting 10 yr old girls.

I doubt those kids will get shit from United here even on Free Employee Pass.

Does united serve nampa? I thought they only went to boise.

And United should seriously consider changing their black and white policy for "Form Fitting pants or Dresses".

That is sooo ridiculous beyond anything. They just want employee pass holders to look neat and tidy. There is nothing untidy or unprofessional about form fitting pants or dresses. I wear them for business all the time!


We are all quite aware that applebees has their waitresses wear yoga pants and halter tops as a uniform or was that hooters?

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 9:54:42 AM   
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Perhaps because they do not want to deal with loudmouth social justice warriors like yourself. Simply tell you to fuck off. See how simple that is.



In a PR disaster perspective, this would be the the even more stupid move to do, IF they want to fix this PR disaster.

You seem to be the only one who percieves it as such.

Why should they be grateful about the free tickets? It's part of their employee package!


Cite please.


Why are you asking for stupid cite when this is an example of an employee getting free flights on UA for just being an Employee of UA! Because it's part of his job package!


There seems to be some question about that. Infoman says it is a perk. You say it is something they are entitled to. If they are entitled to it that would be because it was gained through collective bargaining and would be part of their compensation package...which would make it taxable.
You have been shown in the past to make shit up. So I have learned to ask for cites from those who have been proved to be liars and bullshitters like yourself.
How about it sweet cheeks???
Cite please.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:00:24 AM   
Greta75


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There seems to be some question about that. Infoman says it is a perk. You say it is something they are entitled to. If they are entitled to it that would be because it was gained through collective bargaining and would be part of their compensation package...which would make it taxable.
You have been shown in the past to make shit up. So I have learned to ask for cites from those who have been proved to be liars and bullshitters like yourself.
How about it sweet cheeks???
Cite please.

In Singapore, free shit like this from company wouldn't be taxable. So don't expect me to know what the hell you guys tax in the US!

But whatever they want to declare it as!

UA Employees get these free flights, period! To me, it's an employee benefit!

Just like how hotel staff get free food in Singapore. In the US, they are gonna tax them for free food as well?

And usually employment contract over here, does list out all the "perks" as you guys call it as part of the employment contract.

It's an employee benefit you would be entitled to. It's like how, Google in Singapore gives free food to all their employees. That is a benefit they are entitled to!

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:01:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Greta, you are approaching this from totally the wrong angle.

You are shreiking about leggings not being offensive clothing.
You are berating the fact that it's a sexist rule.

The whole point is - it is a company rule and that's the end of it.
The father chose to ignore it and got caught by a jobsworth flight attendant.
They did their job as they should have done.

The fact that you've got away with it in the past by lazy inatentive stewardesses is not something that you should be gloating about because it shows the slap-dash unprofessional attitude that Singapore Airlines take.
Also bear in mind, they may not have the same dress code that UA have for their free travel tickets.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:05:09 AM   
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The fact that you've got away with it in the past by lazy inatentive stewardesses is not something that you should be gloating about because it shows the slap-dash unprofessional attitude that Singapore Airlines take.
Also bear in mind, they may not have the same dress code that UA have for their free travel tickets.



Freedomdwarf, United Airlines is a popular Airline in Singapore and it wasn't Singapore Airline I got free flights on because Singapore Airlines does not have such employee benefit at all. Actually they have but it is for employee only and not for their family or friends like United Airlines would allow.

This is a United Airline staple. And Singaporeans working with United Airlines gets all these free flights too which they can give their friends and family.

So it was precisely United Airline I got my free flights from as my relative works there.

And I think the staff at United Airlines over here, know not to enforce ridiculous rulings. And just use common sense instead! As long as the woman is not dressed indecently and looks chic and respectable, which is TOTALLY possible with Form Fitting Clothings!

As many woman do travel in form fitting clothes. If they were to enforce it, they are gonna have to bar alot of free flight holders who are females! And some rules are just archaic.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:12:57 AM   
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There seems to be some question about that. Infoman says it is a perk. You say it is something they are entitled to. If they are entitled to it that would be because it was gained through collective bargaining and would be part of their compensation package...which would make it taxable.
You have been shown in the past to make shit up. So I have learned to ask for cites from those who have been proved to be liars and bullshitters like yourself.
How about it sweet cheeks???
Cite please.



In Singapore, free shit like this from company wouldn't be taxable. So don't expect me to know what the hell you guys tax in the US!

So you admit that you just made that shit up as I suspected. Shame on you for being such a phoquing liar. It is no wonder you are held in such low esteme by the other members of this board.



Just like how hotel staff get free food in Singapore. In the US, they are gonna tax them for free food as well?

In amerika free food for employees is a rare thing.

And usually employment contract over here, does list out all the "perks" as you guys call it as part of the employment contract.


You are making shit up again sweet cheeks. I have already told you the difference between "perks" and compensation...try to keep up and pay attention.

It's an employee benefit you would be entitled to. It's like how, Google in Singapore gives free food to all their employees. That is a benefit they are entitled to!


No one gives a shit about what happens in that third world shithold called singapore. We are discussing u.a. and their internal pollicies.
Pay attention dumbass this is your thread. Try to stay on topic.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:13:05 AM   
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And I think the staff at United Airlines over here, know not to enforce ridiculous rulings. And just use common sense instead!

No, not common sense.
They are flouting company rules.

As much as I disagree with that rule, I sincerely hope every UA attendant that flouts it is sacked on the spot.
It is quite simply, unprofessional and tardy.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:15:43 AM   
Greta75


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In amerika free food for employees is a rare thing.

I find this very strange, because the idea of these days with Tech Companies offering unlimited all day free food for their employees in Singapore was an idea inspired by what's being done in the US!!! So how is it a rare thing?

Even when I work in hotels and convention centres in Australia I got free food.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:16:44 AM   
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In amerika free food for employees is a rare thing.

I find this very strange, because the idea of these days with Tech Companies offering unlimited all day free food and company sponsored canteens in Singapore was an idea inspired by what's being done in the US!!! So how is it a rare thing?



United Airlines is not a Tech company!

ETA: Free food is not common in the EU or UK either.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:17:51 AM   
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In amerika free food for employees is a rare thing.

I find this very strange, because the idea of these days with Tech Companies offering unlimited all day free food and company sponsored canteens in Singapore was an idea inspired by what's being done in the US!!! So how is it a rare thing?



United Airlines is not a Tech company!

Freedomdwarf, you are not following.

The US guys are saying that United cannot offer free flights as an employee benefit because they would be tax for it.

So I ask them how tech companies offer free food then? Or even Hotels? Wouldn't they be tax for it as well?

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:19:46 AM   
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ETA: Free food is not common in the EU or UK either.


My friend who works in EU works in an MNC with free food as well. They got a full kitchen and full staff of chef in their building who make meals for their employees. And it's all free! So the staff never go hungry. And it's a banking company too. They got free staff canteen.

I tell ya, all these free food in Singapore big MNCs were from MNCs from Europe and US. The idea all originated from Foreign companies from the west.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:20:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		A tech company, or any other company for that matter, can offer whatever they feel like in perks.
Many of those perks have strings attached.

And yes, they would be taxed for it because it is considered a financial advantage.
Some companies pay that tax for their employees but many don't.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:22:23 AM   
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A tech company, or any other company for that matter, can offer whatever they feel like in perks.
Many of those perks have strings attached.

And yes, they would be taxed for it because it is considered a financial advantage.
Some companies pay that tax for their employees but many don't.


Yea sure, some airlines has strings attached like, if they take just one MC anytime in the year, their free flights will be taken away from them, but it is still a staff privilege.

They get free flights if they achieve 100% attendance. Such terms are usually in black and white in their employment contract.

So to me, although they got it "free", but they paid for it with labour! It's like instead of giving them a cash reward, they get a free flight.

Because some companies reward employees with Cash for 100% attendances too.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:27:13 AM   
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I havent readd the previous posts
Targetting children of employees and deny travel is pathetic, its ugly and taking things to the extreme
We are talking about children, wether male or female, air travel is stressful enough on children to do a jobsworth problem
over ten year olds for what they are wearing.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 10:31:56 AM   
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A tech company, or any other company for that matter, can offer whatever they feel like in perks.
Many of those perks have strings attached.

And yes, they would be taxed for it because it is considered a financial advantage.
Some companies pay that tax for their employees but many don't.


Yea sure, some airlines has strings attached like, if they take just one MC anytime in the year, their free flights will be taken away from them, but it is still a staff privilege.

They get free flights if they achieve 100% attendance.

How or why they get any benefits is irrelevant.

These perks (from any company) are never a right.
Some are 'earned' by performance or attendance or by some other measure - but that is individual to each compnay or even applied at a local office level.
You can't compare what one company does with any other when it comes to perks.

When I worked for DPD, if we hit our target for a month, we got free burgers at the end of the shift.
But it was paid for by the boss of the depot from his own pocket.
He probably got more than that back by some incentive bonus payment on his salary but nobody knows.
Sometimes, if we coped with a particularly harrowing shift, the supervisor turned the coffee machine over to free dispensing all night.
I don't recall that being done for the day or evening shifts.


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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 11:01:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Employee perks at the discretion of a company with rules attached at the discretion of the company. Even if the rules suck; it is their bailiwick.

Give United a big fat raspberry and move on. On a personal opinion note; horrid experiences with United make it one of the airlines I will NOT deal with unless it is the absolute only and last resort to get somewhere.

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RE: United Airlines Saga - 3/27/2017 11:06:14 AM   
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These perks (from any company) are never a right.
Some are 'earned' by performance or attendance or by some other measure - but that is individual to each compnay or even applied at a local office level.
You can't compare what one company does with any other when it comes to perks.

Maybe we got different definitions of "rights".

To me, when it's what the company tells you they are gonna give you as an employee of a company. It is a right to receive it.

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