Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning

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FatDomDaddy -> Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:06:18 AM)
Reports of Newt's death have been greatly exaggerated http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/26/bill_clinton_praises_newt_hes_articulate_and_attracts_independents.html

LVnewDom -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:12:27 AM)
Beware the Trojan Horse. The liberal establishment and liberal media are doing everything they can to try and steer the nomination away from Romney.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:19:09 AM)
They are doing exactly the opposite.

DomKen -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:20:28 AM)
Yes, please nominate Newt.

Winterapple -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:24:22 AM)
Yes, please give the nomination to Newtie and his three wives things will be over much quicker.

SternSkipper -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:28:07 AM)
quote: Beware the Trojan Horse. The liberal establishment and liberal media are doing everything they can to try and steer the nomination away from Romney. Hahahahahaha ... Here .. if you liked the theme of your own post...you'll LOVE THIS

SternSkipper -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 11:36:26 AM)
quote: They are doing exactly the opposite. While I am not hearing the call to abandon ship. I would tend to agree with you. I really think that when his own religious right starts cracking open the book of Mormon for a look-see in an effort to make him renounce, the public will fucking freak and run from him big time. Newt is MUCH more marketable in the long run. And people feel they KNOW him. For better or for worse. I think it's natural that Bill comes out and says something, cause he's been very fond of "I told ya so" past 8 - 10 years. And he and Newt DO have a history... though I hear conflicting reports about how much actual dislike there is between them.

Sanity -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:02:26 PM)
Part of the reason Newt is catching on fire is his wit Newt To Obama: Let's Debate, You Can Use A Teleprompter... And to those who say character matters, two words. Can you guess what they are?

Moonhead -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:03:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: They are doing exactly the opposite. While I am not hearing the call to abandon ship. I would tend to agree with you. I really think that when his own religious right starts cracking open the book of Mormon for a look-see in an effort to make him renounce, the public will fucking freak and run from him big time. Newt is MUCH more marketable in the long run. And people feel they KNOW him. For better or for worse. I think it's natural that Bill comes out and says something, cause he's been very fond of "I told ya so" past 8 - 10 years. And he and Newt DO have a history... though I hear conflicting reports about how much actual dislike there is between them. At least Newt doesn't wet himself...

BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:22:46 PM)
smart move by a smart politician. this has nothing to do with getting obama reelected, of course. the gop literally does not have a single electable candidate. romney cannot magically de-mormonify himself and cain and perry are both, astonishingly enough, both too stupid to be elected even in 21st century america. still, after obama has spent the past term casually heaping contempt upon the left, the only way to jack up contributions to the democratic party from some of the liberals who got snookered into banking obama last time around is to conjure up the image of the biggest, scariest monster imaginable. gingrich works as a big scary monster and invoking his name may just be enough to keep the party's coffers ringing with coins despite obama's tried and true record as every ounce the corporate shill clinton and bush were.

tazzygirl -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:23:54 PM)
~FR Damn, forgot about that puppet nic

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:30:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch smart move by a smart politician. this has nothing to do with getting obama reelected, of course. the gop literally does not have a single electable candidate. romney cannot magically de-mormonify himself and cain and perry are both, astonishingly enough, both too stupid to be elected even in 21st century america. still, after obama has spent the past term casually heaping contempt upon the left, the only way to jack up contributions to the democratic party from some of the liberals who got snookered into banking obama last time around is to conjure up the image of the biggest, scariest monster imaginable. gingrich works as a big scary monster and invoking his name may just be enough to keep the party's coffers ringing with coins despite obama's tried and true record as every ounce the corporate shill clinton and bush were. Money is the least of the Dems problems.

Moonhead -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:32:25 PM)
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BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:44:11 PM)
money is the only concern of either political party. money greases the wheels for party functionaries. money buys the access that gets loyal team players and their sons and daughters jobs in the banks and in the media. money makes both wings of the american property party go around. the dems in particular happen to be in trouble right now. by their own accounting, donations for the congressional campaigns are down 20% and many big donors aren't getting out their checkbooks this time around. quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch smart move by a smart politician. this has nothing to do with getting obama reelected, of course. the gop literally does not have a single electable candidate. romney cannot magically de-mormonify himself and cain and perry are both, astonishingly enough, both too stupid to be elected even in 21st century america. still, after obama has spent the past term casually heaping contempt upon the left, the only way to jack up contributions to the democratic party from some of the liberals who got snookered into banking obama last time around is to conjure up the image of the biggest, scariest monster imaginable. gingrich works as a big scary monster and invoking his name may just be enough to keep the party's coffers ringing with coins despite obama's tried and true record as every ounce the corporate shill clinton and bush were. Money is the least of the Dems problems.

Sanity -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:49:14 PM)
Thats the Democrats' problem, Obama is a known now and so the thrill is gone. They have no one to vote for this time around. and so the only hope is that the hated and despised (barely human) Republicans nominate someone they can demonize enough to encourage the party faithful to vote against. And deep down inside the smart ones know that it wont be nearly enough quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch smart move by a smart politician. this has nothing to do with getting obama reelected, of course. the gop literally does not have a single electable candidate. romney cannot magically de-mormonify himself and cain and perry are both, astonishingly enough, both too stupid to be elected even in 21st century america. still, after obama has spent the past term casually heaping contempt upon the left, the only way to jack up contributions to the democratic party from some of the liberals who got snookered into banking obama last time around is to conjure up the image of the biggest, scariest monster imaginable. gingrich works as a big scary monster and invoking his name may just be enough to keep the party's coffers ringing with coins despite obama's tried and true record as every ounce the corporate shill clinton and bush were.

Moonhead -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:51:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: panhandlebliss Newt would clean the 'teleprompter kid's' clock in a debate.... What, like Gore and Kerry both cleaned teh chimp's clock in the 2000 and 2004 debates, you mean? Fat lot of good that did... (BTW: if you're setting up a new account, you might be better off using a different pic to the one you had on the account that got closed down by the mods. Just sayin'.)

Sanity -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:52:17 PM)
Do you think Obama is making friends on Wall Street, or alienating them. He is alienating everybody, your own posts reveal a certain contempt for the man. quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch money is the only concern of either political party. money greases the wheels for party functionaries. money buys the access that gets loyal team players and their sons and daughters jobs in the banks and in the media. money makes both wings of the american property party go around. the dems in particular happen to be in trouble right now. by their own accounting, donations for the congressional campaigns are down 20% and many big donors aren't getting out their checkbooks this time around.

BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 12:56:51 PM)
this is going to be my last reply in the thread, i suspect, since i have no horse in the race. there are literally no circumstances under which i would vote for (or more to the point give money to) either obama or his republican challenger. the gop could run david duke and zombie strom thurmond and i would still have nothing to do with obama (i neither donated nor voted for him the last time around either). i just want to reiterate that this is smart politics on clinton's part because all the dems are worried about at this point is raising money, and the only way to raise money is to terrify the base with monsters like gingrich. as far as the next election cycle goes, the dems will lose even more ground in the house and senate, but they'll retain the white house. there is no point in having an internet fight about it, and if you want to think the gop is going to win next time around i'm cool with that. my only comment is that i have offered several republicans i am friends with a straight-up thousand dollar bet--obama wins and i collect, any republican is in the white house and they win. nobody has taken me up on it. quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thats the Democrats' problem, Obama is a known now and so the thrill is gone. They have no one to vote for this time around. and so the only hope is that the hated and despised (barely human) Republicans nominate someone they can demonize enough to encourage the party faithful to vote against. And deep down inside the smart ones know that it wont be nearly enough quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch smart move by a smart politician. this has nothing to do with getting obama reelected, of course. the gop literally does not have a single electable candidate. romney cannot magically de-mormonify himself and cain and perry are both, astonishingly enough, both too stupid to be elected even in 21st century america. still, after obama has spent the past term casually heaping contempt upon the left, the only way to jack up contributions to the democratic party from some of the liberals who got snookered into banking obama last time around is to conjure up the image of the biggest, scariest monster imaginable. gingrich works as a big scary monster and invoking his name may just be enough to keep the party's coffers ringing with coins despite obama's tried and true record as every ounce the corporate shill clinton and bush were.

BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 1:02:25 PM)
the bankers will continue to bankroll both major parties, as they always have. the bankers will continue to get everything they want and complain loudly about it anyway, as they always have. obama cannot possibly alienate me. i regarded him as a loathsome, soulless machine from the start and my opinion of him cannot sink any lower. i am surprised by how open he was about continuing and extending some of the worst bush era policies on civil rights and military operations on foreign soil, but i am not in the least surprised that he has continued these policies. there was never any reason to view obama as anything other than a vicious, heartless opportunist. i DO find a sort of black amusement in watching how loath self-proclaimed "liberals" are to call obama out on the same policies for which they were eager to chastise bush. quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Do you think Obama is making friends on Wall Street, or alienating them. He is alienating everybody, your own posts reveal a certain contempt for the man. quote: ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch money is the only concern of either political party. money greases the wheels for party functionaries. money buys the access that gets loyal team players and their sons and daughters jobs in the banks and in the media. money makes both wings of the american property party go around. the dems in particular happen to be in trouble right now. by their own accounting, donations for the congressional campaigns are down 20% and many big donors aren't getting out their checkbooks this time around.

SternSkipper -> RE: Gingrich on the rise and Bill Clinton's sounding the warning (11/27/2011 1:03:12 PM)
Moon ... Willbe's horse isn't as Smart as Ed

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