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Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 4:26:43 AM

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Despite economic wellbeing and success, most Brits think Britain is a less happier, less pleasant and a more dangerous place to live under Blair.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2052546,00.html

Maybe that's why there is an exodus to Spain, France, Ozz, anywhere but Britain.

Hmm Maybe this is game theory at work.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 4:29:50 AM

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Tony Blair doesn't look too happy, thats for sure !

PC liberalism anybody ? Its all going.....wrong he he he he he he he

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 6:06:20 AM

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Despite economic wellbeing and success, most Brits think Britain is a less happier, less pleasant and a more dangerous place to live under Blair.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2052546,00.html

Maybe that's why there is an exodus to Spain, France, Ozz, anywhere but Britain.

Hmm Maybe this is game theory at work.

there is a brite side to all this however. i would think that at a minimum the bobsie twins b&b showed the worlds populations how deceietful our governments are. hopefully people will not let them get away with it and make changes. but i do not think it will happen.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 6:15:54 AM

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Hes the PM that has overseen:

Destruction of free education - removal of grants and introduction of fees.............
Lowered standards in schools - the constant changes of national curriculem etc - constant fidling
Political sleeze on a widescale basis -
Set up the seperation of the Union through the Scottish parliament & Welsh Assembly
Performed function of foreign minister for another state
Seen significant rise in crime in many areas
Introduced constantly rising taxes, but claimed they were not.

..................and all the while claimed he was doing the opposite.

I'm trying to think of his achievements
- the minimum wage
- a G8 summit focussing on poverty and climate change

...................anything else?

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 6:49:23 AM

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Realistically, Churchill's England wasn't very happy either.

You see you reap what you sow, or in some cases what your ancestors have sown.

EVERY FUCKING DAY THAT GOES BY MAKES ME THINK THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE IF THE NAZIS WOULD HAVE WON.

Is anyone else getting this little itch in the back of their mind ?

Hey, think about it, that little country, hardly the size of a US state mounted a pretty good campaign, and no I am not just trying to be on the side of the winners. They rose in a way that makes the pheonix rising really look like ashes. After WW1 you needed a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a postage stamp. Then they were a threat to the whole world all the sudden ?

Do you think for one minute that if I took over this country I would not confiscate all the rich people's offshore assets ? That is the first thing I would do. Haliburton's accounting department would be one hell of a nice playground, and now it is OUR turn to be the bully.We got people sleeping in gutters and others who kill our economy, and profit at the expense of our currency's value and simply do not care about the US. You could call them the "jet set".

People, I will give my life to restore this country if I can get enough people behind me. But as the Founding Fathers, we must pledge our lives and fortunes, at least to each other. If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang seperately. And I mean THE WORLD.

Not that I want to take over the world, not at all. Actually I would not want the responsibility. Just the US. See I got the Constitution to guide me to rule the US, so I can handle it. These other nations, well, I just don't want to deal with it. How about we just have some fair trade with them and leave them all alone for the most part ? Whaddya think ?

Yup, me and George, but not George Bush, George Washington.

You see, We The People OF THE WORLD are like an old beater car. We were made out of mettle that would not rust, and were designed to last forever, with proper maitainence. But we never got that and now our owners want to scrap us.

Well I say that it would be a great day when the common Man wakes up and says "I'm not good enough ?, fucking WALK". You don't have a car anymore, even a beater.

Just what the fuck will these useless thieves do then ?

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 7:39:59 AM

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Interview with the leader of the Nurses - Blair worse than conservatives on looking after the National Health Service - !!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/08/nhealth08.xml

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 7:44:46 AM

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People looked pretty happy when I visited the UK.

The results of these sorts of polls, are totally dictated by how they are framed, and where they are taken. If you took a similar poll on my campus, you would probably get a similar, if not more depressing result. That at a school where about 75% of the students are from very wealthy families.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 7:49:09 AM

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John Stocil had a TV special postulating that popular discontent was tied into a skewed media which fans the flames of terrorist attacks, national security threats, and fears of health epidemics and violent crime.

Hence, even though the avg person is living in the best and safest of times, he doesn't feel that way.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 8:08:14 AM

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Hence, even though the avg person is living in the best and safest of times, he doesn't feel that way.

I've always been attracted to the theory that the safer and more material comforts we have, the more we realise how empty our lives are and hence we need fear and threats to add meaning to our existence. Though I hasten to add, as long as those fears and threats remain in the mind and don't enter our real lives. I really think those rightwing warriors ought to take note, they wouldn't really like the reality of their imaginations entering their lives.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 8:11:22 AM

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quote:

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People looked pretty happy when I visited the UK.

The results of these sorts of polls, are totally dictated by how they are framed, and where they are taken. If you took a similar poll on my campus, you would probably get a similar, if not more depressing result. That at a school where about 75% of the students are from very wealthy families.

As I suggested to cloudboy, I think the depression is largely to do with the emptiness of people's lives rather than anything being intrinsically bad in someones life. I live in an inner city arera where there are a lot of refugees and asylum seekers and I am struck by how much more optimistic thay are than the indigenous population which has it so good.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 8:14:55 AM

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quote:

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Hes the PM that has overseen:

Destruction of free education - removal of grants and introduction of fees.............
Lowered standards in schools - the constant changes of national curriculem etc - constant fidling
Political sleeze on a widescale basis -
Set up the seperation of the Union through the Scottish parliament & Welsh Assembly
Performed function of foreign minister for another state
Seen significant rise in crime in many areas
Introduced constantly rising taxes, but claimed they were not.

..................and all the while claimed he was doing the opposite.

I'm trying to think of his achievements
- the minimum wage
- a G8 summit focussing on poverty and climate change

...................anything else?

I'm sure he's done some good but what I don't know. He does seem to have reigned over a cultural malaise and their is nothing more depressing than his acting and doublespeak. Now people take for granted he means the exact opposite of what he says.

Hmm..I guess there is the Northern Ireland assembly which is something he can be proud of and which he has put a lot of political capital into.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 8:26:39 AM

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i dont think the pesaaants will revolt yet.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 8:52:24 AM

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i dont think the pesaaants will revolt yet.

I agree, there are too many TV soaps and holidays in Spain for that to happen.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 1:06:16 PM

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speak for your self, I've been a revolting peseant since I was a teenager

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 1:57:07 PM

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speak for your self, I've been a revolting peseant since I was a teenager

I used to be a member of the old Labour party and it revolted me with all its dishonesty and I could see the need for change, I never expected the change would be even more revolting. Maybe politics is just revolting. I'm all for revolting peasants, there just aren't enough of them though.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 2:02:38 PM

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"The natives are revolting"

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 2:05:03 PM

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You could insert any prime ministers name into that survey and would have got the same result. Let's face it we are never satisfied where politics are concerned.
They conducted a survey of 2000 people in a country that has an estimated population of 60,609,153 (jul 2006 est). Not a fair representation i would say!

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 2:25:56 PM

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Rather New Labour than same old Conservatives, though there isnt much to choose between, I'd grant.

The real problem is the system though, not the brand of greasepole climbers who happen to be in the ascendancy. And as long as the system favours the greasy pole, nothing will change but the brand.

And thats really why, whatever the climbers say or do, Britain will continue to slide - because the people dont believe in any of it, having been deceived far too many times with visions for the future et al. We dont rebel though, we just lose interest - the wealthier emigrate and the poorer simply disengage, whilst in the middle the rest of us struggle to join the former and not become the latter.

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 3:07:35 PM

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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

You can make statistics say anything you want it to say. As my college professor told me, "Statistics should be taught in the English department, not Mathematics."

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RE: Blair's Britain isn't a happy place. - 4/8/2007 3:11:07 PM

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Despite economic wellbeing and success, most Brits think Britain is a less happier, less pleasant and a more dangerous place to live under Blair.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2052546,00.html

Maybe that's why there is an exodus to Spain, France, Ozz, anywhere but Britain.

Hmm Maybe this is game theory at work.

It's all going to pan out fine, as he'll sort out the happiness problem when he calls it a day.

In fairness, before 1997, pensioners were dying here because they couldn't afford to heat their homes in the winter. Under Blair's government, these deaths have been reduced by a fair stretch. So, it ain't all bad.

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