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How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life style? - 1/13/2007 8:26:23 AM

enigmaslave

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How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life style?

Would you be willing to move and to live in a adult only community that was accepting of your choices? Would you relocate to another country, province or state?

If a BSDM adult only community was in the planning stages, would it make you seriously consider relocation.

How much would a home (house or condo of 2000 sq ft) in such a community be worth to you?

Would you be willing to invest your time and money, before during and afterwards for such a community?

What would it take to get involved?

Honestly speaking I don’t want to hear from the no crowd. I know there will be many will say no that they have a job and family where they are, and further more it would be too difficult for them to make such a transition.

I want to find 70 or more people that would like to own a piece of this property or be an investor.

This inspiration would involve creating a 70 unit Cooperative Condominium Complex, geared towards those in this life style.

The property would be with in a 2 hours drive of Toronto Ontario Canada.

The average price of homes in this area, range from $200k-300k. (Canadian $)However as a Private Cooperative the price per unite could be dropped a fair amount.

I would like to hear some serious feed back.

Please note, this is a concept at this time.

Nothing has been initiated as yet.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 9:10:38 AM

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Would you be willing to move and to live in a adult only community that was accepting of your choices? Would you relocate to another country, province or state?

If circumstances lent themselves towards such, sure. But I have yet to find a BDSM organization board of directors which I'd want to spend an entire weekend hanging out with, let alone and entire community of them on an ongoing daily basis.

I'm just fine and happy living in my apartment here in Austin.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BDSM Life... - 1/13/2007 9:16:04 AM

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Canada is too cold, bring the development to Maui and ill help you build it!

edited to add:

thing is though i am a loner by nature i lived in a number of communities and communes in my life, from hippy live off the land ones to punk rock squats in London...i dont personally have a lot of faith in this form of lifestyle anymore, but i would still help you build it if it was here, and i would happily attend functions and use the communal spaces, dungeon, kitchen and gardens...but i would keep my home in the mountains with my pet menagerie and glass studio.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 9:16:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: enigmaslave

How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life style?

Would you be willing to move and to live in a adult only community that was accepting of your choices? Would you relocate to another country, province or state?
Only if i had to. For example if it became illegal to practice bdsm anywhere else.

If a BSDM adult only community was in the planning stages, would it make you seriously consider relocation.
Only if i had to.

How much would a home (house or condo of 2000 sq ft) in such a community be worth to you?
No more than a home anywhere else.

Would you be willing to invest your time and money, before during and afterwards for such a community?
No.

What would it take to get involved?

Honestly speaking I don’t want to hear from the no crowd. I know there will be many will say no that they have a job and family where they are, and further more it would be too difficult for them to make such a transition.

I want to find 70 or more people that would like to own a piece of this property or be an investor.

This inspiration would involve creating a 70 unit Cooperative Condominium Complex, geared towards those in this life style.

The property would be with in a 2 hours drive of Toronto Ontario Canada.

The average price of homes in this area, range from $200k-300k. (Canadian $)However as a Private Cooperative the price per unite could be dropped a fair amount.

I would like to hear some serious feed back.

Please note, this is a concept at this time.

Nothing has been initiated as yet.

Seriously i can't imagine many people would want to live in such a community. I love my life the way it is - every lifestyle etc mixed in together. Why put into place segregation?

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 10:22:59 AM

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Maybe a question would be, "How much are you willing to invest?"

Maybe think along the lines of building a Bed&Breakfast type space with individual "cabins" or "units" were people could come stay by the weekend, week or month.
Have other spaces and things such as a Workshop/Demonstration building, Dungeon Space, communial eating or privite dinner options in their own cabin, fun BDSM activities, games etc...etc....

Just a thought. That might help it not have the "Cult" like separation thing going on. People would come and go and the place would continuably grow in it's openness.

Missy.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 10:25:43 AM

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I'm not a fan of condos nor of living with folks I don't know.

If people I knew wanted to get together and found a town where being kinky was ok, that would be worth my time to look into.

However since I want to teach at a university it is unlikely such a community would offer one as well and I'm not a big fan of commutes.

In fact, my first published erotica story was about a town similar to what you describe, enigmaslave. "A Day in the Life of the Landfords" was in "S/M Futures" and was republished in "Color of Pain, Shade of Pleasure".

It sounds like an interesting idea.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 10:34:10 AM

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Ever wondered about your resale value? It's hard to unload a property if the pool of potential buyers is limited to kinks.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 10:56:53 AM

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While it sounds wonderful in some respects, I do believe I would prefer living in a community in which there is diversity. I've never liked the idea of even an adult community because it cuts out a signficant part of the world: babies, children, adolescents, young adults.

All in all, I prefer the challenges of working with and living among a broad range of people, and an adult community of BDSMers would be far too narrow and I think, in the long run, constrictive.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 11:27:03 AM

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If all goes well- i am hoping to relocate to a different state and join a family that wants to create a BDSM Inn. To me this would be heaven on earth! (i won't know for certain until 3/17.) i would be free to finally live my different life as well as finally be able to use many of my "talents." Cooking, cleaning, massage, aroma therapy, buy, make & sell toys, and so much more. When in town among vanilla i would of course be pretty much run of the mill vanilla, i would hope. i mean i realize a lot of the decisions lie in the hands of the Master.

www.TheVikingInn.com (not sure of the exact address) was started by an Alpha in the Minn area i believe. His website explains. i once chatted with Him and He seems to be nice, i really liked His ways and style. i could see why His Inn would be very popular. The dynamics were not quite what i was looking for so it never progressed.

As for an entire town based on BDSM? Not sure but i do know many cities have areas that are set up, lend themselves to like minded people, artists or psychics, or musicians...why not a neighborhood of BDSM. South of Sacto there are a few building complexes that ae BDSM. my old neighborhood was set up all self employed, small home businesses, and we were pretty close. In times of trouble like when a fire forced us out of our homes- we were very close and everyone at home grabbed keys and headed next door to get neighbor's pets out and safely in someone's car or van. Yep it can work.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 11:42:00 AM

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checking in...gaging reaction....hmm very mixed

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 11:44:58 AM

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 11:50:51 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: enigmaslave

Would you be willing to move and to live in a adult only community that was accepting of your choices?

I think you might find too many don't wish to have the stigma attached to them. It doesn't sound like you are thinking of a self-contained and self-sufficient society... even a hint that the "vanilla" world would find out and label anyone living in a certain area as deviant might cause people to avoid ostracism from the mainstream.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 11:54:02 AM

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Could be a great idea.

Until the people living there started producing lots of little kiddies, the first few rounds of divorces and partner swapping got underway and so on.

It'd turn into a nightmare after that, only without the dilution of normal life in the outside world.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 12:44:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: alovelylady4U

South of Sacto there are a few building complexes that ae BDSM.

So as not to hijack the thread, I emailed you on the other side, asking about this, FYI.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 12:58:05 PM

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my only worry would be the no kids thing.. what if you get pregnent do you get an ultamadum abort or leave your home?? I dont know this works for elderly comunity because they are past procreating age but for adult still of child bearing years that may be hard

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 1:05:13 PM

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sounds interesting.. but then again... i wouldnt be able too.. i've a wee one and wee one on the way. I think alot of folks in the BDSM community has wee ones. Not only are you cutting your population down to only kink.. but you're also cutting the kink population down to only a certian amount of ppl

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 1:31:07 PM

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I think that’s a great question,

First off, let’s make the fallowing presumption.
The environment and the amount of space would be self determining of whether couples would chose to continue to live there. 2000 sq feet may seem like a lot for a single, but a couple its starts getting a little tighter, and then add a child or two ....well I say no more.

There would be an elected Board for the complex, and the complex would be a designated as a corporation. Included would be provisions for wanting to have children, in such a event, the attempt would be made to assist the couple into the getting a town house, presuming they weren’t in one to begin with.

My vision for this property was that it would be in area away from any sizable population. The housing on the property would be large circle of 20 town houses surrounding the perimeter of the property, and then a 10 story condominium building in the middle.

The 10 story building would have up to 5 levels below ground, for all cars, swimming and recreation facilities, Non vanilla recreation rooms, storage, and large rooms and offices for those that would be self employed or work from home.

As a cooperative, the residents would attempt to minimize any contract work by performing the work them selves.

I envision people owning shares of the property rather then the individual unites, and paying a maintenance fee.

When the time came, and people wanted to move on, they would sell their shares back to the complex, rather having to wait for months for the unit to find a buyer.

Again this is an idea. I don’t know the feasibility, no the legalities

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 1:46:50 PM

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An intriguing idea. I'd only consider it if the complex and its decisions were totally in the realm of subbies/bottoms.

Since I'm in the US it doesn't seem practical, especially since in my career field there are many, many Canadians that come to my area to work--so I have to wonder about economic reality. However family is so much more that economics (tempered with minimal survivability).

I think that I'd prefer it was nearer to Toronto, but I understand your reasoning which is probably property cost.

Pick the right town (Here in NH/VT we have local government and there are some with only a few hundred voters) and you'd "own" the police--really.

For the right women though I'd move to Pluto and hope that she has an old Plymouth Galaxy to transport me there.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 1:59:04 PM

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Heh, I live about 2 hours from TO. Which direction were you looking at going? North, South, West? If you're looking 2 hours north, I wouldn't count on there being a big welcome wagon from any of the small communities nearby.

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My vision for this property was that it would be in area away from any sizable population.

I see too many locals thinking 'Waco-ish' Not that it is, of course, far from it, but you get a group of people with strange-to-the-nilla-world views/activities building a compound-esque set of buildings, and you're basically inviting ridicule/stigma for the people living there.

edited because east wasn't exactly an option.

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RE: How far would you be willing to take your BSDM Life... - 1/13/2007 2:49:42 PM

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What would you be willing to risk for your vanilla relationship? You are merely talking about going into business and taking risks.
Would you do it if there were no BDSM involved? Would it still work?
If so, then go for it.
Some would like your idea, some would'nt. I'd take a poll of local residents within the community and see what they have to say. If they are for it, perhap's you can make it work. If not, it is even riskier.

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