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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 3:15:28 PM   
akbarbarian


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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha
Of course, I am just her trashy bdsm slave friend, what do I know..
 
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PS..I think that seemed a bit bitter of me... I guess I am just tired of my "friends" judging me, when they live in glass houses.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 3:21:05 PM   
akbarbarian


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Status: offline 		I'm not speechless, and I think we're looking for a simple phrase.  Unhealthy D/s.  Sure it's one person dominating, and another submitting to a degree but are both parties happy and fulfilled as a result of the arrangement?  I think both are struggling to wring out of the other person what they want, and trust is in short supply.  Anxiety, manipulation, all of this points to "unhealthy" to me.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 4:06:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

What do you think a potential master would think about this? You list as a slave, do you think that this need to please is what lead you to these pen pals?


That i have pen pals in America in prison per chance?
No i don't think my being a slave has anything to do with it? Why would it?
If i was writing to just anyone would you still ask that question or is it because my pen pals are in prison?


I don't get the question either. So she writes to guys in prison, what does that have to do with her submission? You could argue she had a misguided sense of submission if she was smuggling dope into prisons for them, but she already said that she wouldn't. Kinda like when I was asked "What will your husband think of you being bisexual?" That I'm bisexual, I dunno...

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 5:15:54 PM   
sharainks


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Status: offline 		I work in a prison.  What these inmates are doing is not domination.  It is putting the bait out there to catch prey.  When they find someone who bites on the bait they victimize them as surely as they did those their crime was against.  There really isn't such a thing as a victimless crime.  Whether its rape, forgery, identity theft, murder or anything else someone got harmed by another's actions.

Every day I see guys seeking women (hopefully multiple women) who will help them with their legal cases, remail letters to places they shouldn't go, bring in contraband, ask them for money etc etc.  Then they turn to their fellow inmates and make fun of these women who are so stupid as to have fallen for them. 

Its not D/s its predator and prey with no conscience on the part of the predator. 

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 5:28:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaosgrrl
I'm guilty of the Bad Boy fantasies as well, but I wouldn't choose one that is in prison.  I'd most definitely go with the one who hadn't been caught.  ;) 


Amen to that statement! at least w/o the felony conviction they can still be cleaned up, get good jobs, be "productive" members of society and if need be can still kick ass with the best of them.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 5:30:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Kinda like when I was asked "What will your husband think of you being bisexual?" That I'm bisexual, I dunno...


I know the answer for 75% of all men. "Sweet! I can have my cake and eat her friend too."

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 5:33:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaosgrrl

I'm guilty of the Bad Boy fantasies as well, but I wouldn't choose one that is in prison.  I'd most definitely go with the one who hadn't been caught.  ;) 


oh my God, yes.  A Bad Boy with a brain.... lethal combinations (for me at least)...

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 6:28:30 PM   
akbarbarian


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Status: offline 		What is it about the bad boy that is interesting?  I could read up on this elsewhere, but here I'd get answers that matter more to me.
My guesses

Non conformst and forceful=a ticket out of your conformity without the responsibility of having a "choice" in said activity, such as in "forced" feminization of males

Disregards the cultural norms, and is also more likely to be domiant with you by disregarding your moral compass in favor of his own

A couple of ideas anyway.  If you really want someone who kicks ass, what about a very mellow clark kent type who studies martial arts and can break bones with ease etc?

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 6:50:08 PM   
BDSM05478


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Status: offline 		For me..... I need a dude that is down for what ever, has my back, wont break under questioning and isn't scared to stroll where angels fear to fly. I like the kinda guy you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley but yet will carry an old ladies groceries up a 5thfl walk up. Now for the why.... at times in my life I have been , lets say ethically bankrupt, I have bled only for the reason to walk where I wanna walk w/o being hassled, I have actually had to plead the 5th. That is why I come from, not where I am at mind you, and I need some one that can be down with that. Clark kent is a little too wholesome for the likes of me. *Shuts off the ghetto and goes back to suburban with a wink*

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 6:56:37 PM   
akbarbarian


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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478
I like the kinda guy you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley

The rest made sense to me, but what does this mean specifically?

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/22/2006 6:59:00 PM   
SirDiscipliner69


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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 2:59:34 AM   
NeedToUseYou


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Status: offline 		In my experience with my mother and her jail bird boyfriend. It works like this, in prison they are nothing but loving, nuturing, caring to the woman. I love you this and that, you make me want to live through this, because I know we'll be together. etc. etc.  So, they have someone to talk to and place to go when they get out. So, the woman gets an ideal man while locked away(in words anyway). Once out they after about a week of honeymooning, revert back to whatever slime they previously were. Generally, go back to the same group of friends, drugs, alcohol etc.... Fast foward 6 month - 2 years, they are back in jail and saying the same crap all over again.

I wouldn't recommend forming a relationship with inmates, personally. They are desperate for outside contact, and will act like whatever they need to, to maintain that connection. The pieces of crap I know, going by there letters you'd of thought they were okay people that just fucked up. But the reality was they are just fuck-ups.

Of course I'm sure exceptions occur but that is really the pitfall isn't it. Everyone thinks the one they are talking to is the exception. He can change!!! LOL, sure he can, but doubtful he really wants to.

I'm sure there are one or two lovely stories of true love forming from behind prison walls, like a 10000:1 chance, I'd bet.


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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 7:02:09 AM   
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My last partners cousin, was such a female. She wrote to a rapist for years. There was a strong power exchange going on for them, so it was worthwhile to her. Until she commited suicide on the day of his execution.


Executed for rape?



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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 7:31:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

In my experience with my mother and her jail bird boyfriend. It works like this, in prison they are nothing but loving, nuturing, caring to the woman. I love you this and that, you make me want to live through this, because I know we'll be together. etc. etc.  So, they have someone to talk to and place to go when they get out. So, the woman gets an ideal man while locked away(in words anyway). Once out they after about a week of honeymooning, revert back to whatever slime they previously were. Generally, go back to the same group of friends, drugs, alcohol etc.... Fast foward 6 month - 2 years, they are back in jail and saying the same crap all over again.

I wouldn't recommend forming a relationship with inmates, personally. They are desperate for outside contact, and will act like whatever they need to, to maintain that connection. The pieces of crap I know, going by there letters you'd of thought they were okay people that just fucked up. But the reality was they are just fuck-ups.

Of course I'm sure exceptions occur but that is really the pitfall isn't it. Everyone thinks the one they are talking to is the exception. He can change!!! LOL, sure he can, but doubtful he really wants to.

I'm sure there are one or two lovely stories of true love forming from behind prison walls, like a 10000:1 chance, I'd bet.




Need, I think you nailed it.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 7:41:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		friends who judge you are not friends in the first place, friends accept you for who you are and as you are.  Its her choice if you are her friend just support her decisioin you dont have to agree with it, we all have friends we dont like some of the choices they make but we still love them have to be able to seperate the two.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 12:33:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

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I like the kinda guy you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley

The rest made sense to me, but what does this mean specifically?


Have you ever walked down a dark street and seen someone walking towards you and for a minute you find yourself feeling a little defensive, that there just might be something to keep aware about and keep your eye on them maybe even casually glancing over your shoulder to make sure they didn't turn around and are now right behind you. That if prompted they might be capable of great rage, strenght and maybe just a touch of insainity.

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 1:36:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The guy in a dark alley... I inherited that look. My dad looked like the type of guy who would gladly stab you for entertainment, and people literally crossed the street to avoid us once I was closer to full-sized... but he was the gentlest man I ever met, not only with me and my mom, but with everyone he met.

I'm thankful every day I had a role model like him, or else I might have ended up on the other side of this thread (as one of the guys in prison).


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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 1:46:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is one of the best kind of men to be, Smoking IMO

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RE: Is being Dominated from a person in jail part of th... - 12/23/2006 5:00:22 PM   
TopinPa


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Status: offline 		I guess when you figure a man has nothing but lots of time on his hands he is able to think up all kinds of ways to manipulate a woman

When some women have been cheated on so many times they're willing to settle for a man that's locked up so he can't cheat, at least not with a woman.

Those two things add up to a negative relationship but most differently not to be confused with a D/s relationship....the two are worlds apart!

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