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tazzygirl -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 11:17:38 AM)

Kudos to the NFL, and Goodell, for the reaction to the displaced fans! True, while it wont replace the experience of this years Superbowl, I see the reaction made as the only plausible way to make up for the screw-up over the 400 seats.

The NFL said that the displaced fans will receive free tickets to Super Bowl XLVI in Indianapolis, and were also allowed to come down on the field after the game, where they received free merchandise, food and beverages.

Those fans were also compensated with an amount three times the ticket's face value.

About 1,200 temporary seats had to be scrapped before the game due to safety concerns. Seating was found for about 850 of the displaced fans, but the other 400 or so had to watch the game on television inside the stadium.

"We will certainly do a thorough review and get to the bottom of why it all occurred, but we take full responsibility for that as putting on this game. But the one thing we will never do is compromise safety, the safety of our fans, safety of our players, anybody involved with our event," Goodell said.


Way to show class... while covering a black eye!




YSG -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 11:40:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

It takes advantage of the fact that he is free to move around as he feels.  The corner has no inside up top.  It can be a hard route to cover without that inside help.  They also burned old Troy on the touchdown where he was looking for that route.

The Packers would have hit that route for several more big plays if the receivers had just caught the ball instead of having the drops.




well, the Packer's passing game has been clunking all year. Im actually surprised it made it that far, especially with all the injuries. Still though, they came through in the clutch.

As for Troy, he really needs some help at cornerback, especially considering that the Browns are probably going to pick up that AJ Green kid out of Georgia in the first round, and come out with a high-powered offense.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 12:52:59 PM)

Not everything you read online is accurate, tazzygirl.  You can't "trace" the Green Bay Packers to 1896 because the team was founded on August 11, 1919, by Curly Lambeau and George Whitney Calhoun with funds from Lambeau's employer, the Indian Packing Company.  That's why they're called the Packers.  The fact that there were semi-professional teams in and around Green Bay before then doesn't mean that they have anything to do with the Packers.  (Curly Lambeau wasn't even alive in 1896.)

Anyway...no matter how old they are, and whether they're the second-oldest or third-oldest, I'm saying right here that Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in Packers' history!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Third-oldest.  Don't forget the Cardinals.  And most teams have not been anywhere near as successful as the Packers (like, ummm, those Cardinals).

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Ummm.. Considering they are the second oldest team in the NFL, I would expect them to have more wins... Its sort of a no brainer.



huh?

Professionally, the Arizona Cardinals are the oldest team in the NFL, being founded in 1898 as the Morgan Athletic Club. The Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears are the next oldest teams, both being founded in 1919. The Bears (as the Decatur Staleys) and the Cardinals (as the Racine Cardinals) both joined the NFL in 1920 as founding teams. The Packers joined a year later in 1921.

If you want to get technical, the Green Bay Packers would actually be the oldest team, as you can trace their lineage back to 1896 to semi-professional teams that played in Green Bay. However, they did not officially become the Packers until 1919, and therefore are not considered the oldest.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_NFL_team_is_the_oldest#ixzz1DIHjVHaB

Which is why I said they were the second oldest in the league.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 12:58:53 PM)

They would have scored about six touchdowns if Jordy Nelson had hung on to a few more of those perfectly-thrown balls.  Can you imagine what this guy would be doing to the NFL if he had receivers like Jerry Rice, John Taylor, and Roger Craig?

By the same token, the Steelers would have won the game if they had just given the ball away two times and not three.  Couldashouldawoulda.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

The Packers would have hit that route for several more big plays if the receivers had just caught the ball instead of having the drops.




YSG -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 12:59:07 PM)

Woah dude, the best? Ok, I admit Farve is a peice of shit, but he was a hell of a QB there. Also, what about Bart Starr?




tazzygirl -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 1:01:49 PM)

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Anyway...no matter how old they are, and whether they're the second-oldest or third-oldest, I'm saying right here that Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in Packers' history!


Wow, I wasnt even aware I was contesting that! Thank you for reading my mind!

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Not everything you read online is accurate, tazzygirl. You can't "trace" the Green Bay Packers to 1896 because the team was founded on August 11, 1919, by Curly Lambeau and George Whitney Calhoun with funds from Lambeau's employer, the Indian Packing Company. That's why they're called the Packers. The fact that there were semi-professional teams in and around Green Bay before then doesn't mean that they have anything to do with the Packers. (Curly Lambeau wasn't even alive in 1896.)



If you want to get technical, the Green Bay Packers would actually be the oldest team, as you can trace their lineage back to 1896 to semi-professional teams that played in Green Bay. However, they did not officially become the Packers until 1919, and therefore are not considered the oldest.

I do believe that is what the article stated... that the Packers were not officially a team until 1919.





flcouple2009 -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 2:37:25 PM)

Ahhh,  it's the person who told us all year how ALL of the best teams were in the AFC and even the best in the NFC were dog meat.  [:D]




DomImus -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 6:38:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
About 1,200 temporary seats had to be scrapped before the game due to safety concerns.


Ah, now I see. I didn't catch originally that this was temporary seating and I wondered how they could spend that king of money (over a billion dollars) on that stadium and have these issues. Yes, the league handled it very well.

I feel bad for that guy from the Visa commercial who had to sit out this year's SB and break his streak especially since he missed another Packer victory. 44 Super Bowls in a row - jeepers.






cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 7:38:35 PM)

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well, the dude was being used to cover up the fact that he's the only player in the steelers secondary thats worth a damn.


Polamalu has been injured (Achilles) and not nearly as effective as when healthy.




YSG -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 7:41:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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well, the dude was being used to cover up the fact that he's the only player in the steelers secondary thats worth a damn.


Polamalu has been injured (Achilles) and not nearly as effective as when healthy.

Doesnt matter. The rest of the secondary would be playing second string anywhere else, and that was proven last night.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/7/2011 8:09:44 PM)

Rodgers is better than both of them.  Better than Lynn Dickey, too.  And the Majik Man.  And, like, any other QB the Packers have ever had.

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ORIGINAL: YSG

Woah dude, the best? Ok, I admit Farve is a peice of shit, but he was a hell of a QB there. Also, what about Bart Starr?




servantforuse -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/8/2011 2:01:11 PM)

Packer fans returned to Green Bay this afternoon to welcome back the Super Bowl champions. The welcome home reception at Lambeau Field is sold out. Temperatures in Green Bay are near 0. Where else in the country would fans sell out a stadium when there is no game ? This truly is America's team..




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/11/2011 7:28:33 PM)

CBA talks have broken down.  March 4th is the drop dead date.  A lockout seems possible at this point.

http://seattle.sbnation.com/seattle-seahawks/2011/2/11/1989025/nfl-lockout-owners-meeting-cancelled-cba-negotiations-nflpa

Implications for the off-season (erm, lack of off-season) are substantial.




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/11/2011 9:22:35 PM)


The owners want the players to drop their revenue take from 59% to 41%. Where do you think this figure will end up?

Looking that proposal, its no wonder the NFL Owners proposed an 18 game schedule, because adding those two games would boost the money figure of a 41% take.

Have to say that if I'm an NFL player looking at this proposal, I ready myself to sit out the entire 2011 season unless the players get 50% of the revenue or more.




servantforuse -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/11/2011 9:31:27 PM)

If I'm an NFL player making say 3 million a year, I will not want to sit out and lose 3 million dollars.




domiguy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/12/2011 7:41:54 PM)

God bless the Green and Gold.

The game was closer than it should have been. The Packers totally outplayed the Steelers.

2nd youngest team in the league, an injury riddled squad that will be 100% healthy by next season....Let the Dynasty commence!!!!

Can you say seven-peat?




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/13/2011 6:21:43 PM)

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Can you say seven-peat?


NO.




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/13/2011 7:49:28 PM)

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Can you say seven-peat?


No.

Steelers need to get back on the Stairway to Seven.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/13/2011 7:59:11 PM)

The problem is that for the average NFL player, that one season represents a huge proportion of his entire career.  The owners know this, and know that eventually the players will cave.  It's not a coincidence that the players have the worst deal in professional sports.  We're supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of old-boy-network owners in a closed league who preside over $1B franchises?

I still think that if the owners took the carrot out of their asses about the 18-game schedule, they'd be able to work out the rest.  Some of Goodell's points even make sense: like reining in out-of-control rookie salaries.  That's all well and good if the vets get their fair share.

And sometimes I feel that the time is ripe for another league.  They pop up periodically, usually when NFL owners are being too greedy and too closed, and it's been a while since we had the last one--namely the USFL, which failed only because Donald Trump drove it into the ground.  Plenty of great players came out of the USFL.  I can think of plenty of cities where minor-league football would be profitable.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Have to say that if I'm an NFL player looking at this proposal, I ready myself to sit out the entire 2011 season unless the players get 50% of the revenue or more.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (2/13/2011 8:37:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The problem is that for the average NFL player, that one season represents a huge proportion of his entire career.  The owners know this, and know that eventually the players will cave.


Another thing the owners know - many, if not most, of the players are terrible at managing their money. It's amazing how many NFL players - guys making $3, $4, $8 million a year - literally live paycheck to paycheck. If the league shuts its doors for more than a few weeks, the players will cave. They'll have to.


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
And sometimes I feel that the time is ripe for another league.  They pop up periodically, usually when NFL owners are being too greedy and too closed, and it's been a while since we had the last one--namely the USFL, which failed only because Donald Trump drove it into the ground.  Plenty of great players came out of the USFL.  I can think of plenty of cities where minor-league football would be profitable.


Minnesota seems to be having reasonable success with minor league football. They sell out most games without any corporate help at all!




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