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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (12/31/2010 6:30:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Panthers join the carousel.


What do you mean, Katy? I don't follow the Panthers reference. Was that in one of the linked articles, or has some other info come to light?




flcouple2009 -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (12/31/2010 6:43:19 PM)

She was referencing John Fox being fired by the Panthers.




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (12/31/2010 6:45:57 PM)

Sorry about that.  I am not the most linear thinker you will ever meet.  I was relating the most current news I found in re John Fox.  I know it was expected at the end of the season.  Now back to the footsie!




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (12/31/2010 8:14:23 PM)

John Fox has a foot fetish?  Maybe that's why his team kept getting trampled this year...




maybemaybenot -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/2/2011 12:29:15 PM)

Steelers and Pats are relentless today. Both laying a beat down on their opponents.
Jets handling Buffalo nicely. Probably going to open it up further in the 4th.
Oakland up on KC ? wtf.

I cannot wait for the PO's. This year has turned out to be one of the most competitive in a long, long time with lots of surprises.

I LOVE it when players do this :

When Crumpler made the TD for us today, there was a little red headed kid in the stands and he gave him the ball. The look on the kids face was priceless. Lots of players do it. Always makes me smile

I meant to post this the other day. The little boy in the story passed away on New Years Eve. Big hats off to Mark Sanchez.

http://www.silive.com/sports/advance/gordon/index.ssf/2010/12/jets_qb_mark_sanchez_a_mensch.html

mbmbn




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/2/2011 1:01:38 PM)


#1 and #2 seeds in the AFC, baby!  Yay for the pah playoffs!!

That is a nice story about Mark Sanchez.  He knew how to do the right thing.  Much nicer than accosting coeds in bathrooms.  sigh.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/2/2011 2:25:26 PM)

I called that one!

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Oakland up on KC ? wtf.




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/2/2011 6:56:31 PM)

Congrats to the Patriots on an outstanding, multiple record-breaking season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-bradyrecords






Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/2/2011 11:19:12 PM)

My first-round predictions...

Saints at Seahawks: It's a travesty that the Seahawks are in the playoffs, let alone that they're hosting a playoff game.  The NFL has to do something about this.  There were plenty of 10-6 teams that would have loved to be there.  Anyway, Saints.

Jets at Colts: This is NOT the matchup I wanted in the Wild-Card round, but hell, I'll still go with my Jets.

Ravens at Chiefs: This one is pretty lopsided.  Ravens (especially if they decide to run the ball).

Packers at Eagles: Tough, tough game.  Both teams deserved a little better than this in their opening round.  I have to say I think the Packers are the best team in the NFC, so I'm picking the Packers.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/3/2011 12:28:47 AM)

Some statistic oddities that I noticed from going over the final 2010 numbers:

1. Jamaal Charles rushed 230 times for 1467 yards and a 6.4 yards-per-carry average.  6.4?  Are you kidding me?  The all-time record for running backs is held by Beattie Feathers, who gained 8.4 yards-per-carry in 1934 (119-1004), but I daresay the game was a little different back then.  Michael Vick also got 8.4, his career high, in 2006: 123-1039.  The only other 1,000-yard back with that kind of average was Jim Brown in 1963: 291-1863, for 6.4 (which is possibly the best single season that any running back has ever had).  So it's a pretty extraordinary achievement by Charles and I haven't heard anyone comment on it.  Charles's career yards-per-carry is now at 6.0, which isn't going to last, but is an impressive number nonetheless.  (Another thing I noticed while looking into this: the Rams of the early 1950's must have had an amazing offensive line, because three of the best yards-per-carry averages in the history of football were registered by running backs on the 1951, 1953, and 1954 Rams.)

2.  From what I can tell (don't have time to do it the scientific way), BenJarvus Green-Ellis ranks first this year, at least among featured backs, in a stat that I look at (and no one else seems to): first downs plus touchdowns, all divided by total rushes.  Green-Ellis had 13 TD's and 62 first downs in only 229 carries.  In other words, on 32.8% of his carries, he got a first down or touchdown.  Awesome.  That's one carry better than Jamaal Charles, who also had 75 TD's or first downs, but in 230 carries, or 32.6%.  But both were slightly better than Arian Foster, the league leader in rushing yards AND touchdowns (32.1%).  (Vick as a rusher got 47.0%, but you can't look at QB rushing stats in the same way because you'd have to factor in sacks to make it fair.)

3.  I like Peyton Hillis, but fumbling the ball 8 times in 270 carries is awful.

4.  Congratulations to the Steelers' Mike Wallace for leading the league in the only stat that matters: receiving yards divided by targets (1257-100, or 12.57 yards per target).  That's even better than DeSean Jackson, who was awesome as usual (1056-96, or 11.00 yards per target).  The receivers to average more than 10 yards per target were few and far between.  Besides Wallace and Jackson, there were (among receivers with at least 500 receiving yards; otherwise the stat becomes kinda meaningless): Greg Jennings, Johnny Knox, Anthony Armstrong, Antonio Gates, Kenny Britt, and Patrick Crayton.  Let's hear it for Anthony Armstrong!

5.  Wallace also did very well in the same stat that I mentioned above for running backs: first downs plus touchdowns, all divided by targets.  Wallace was at 56.8%, which is great.  DeSean Jackson wasn't even close (40.6%), and Roddy White, everyone's definition of a possession receiver this year, got only 46.4%.  But no one came anywhere near Antonio Gates: 78.8%, an amazing number.  Think about it.  When the Chargers targeted Gates, 78.8% of the time they got a first down or touchdown.  They really missed him down the stretch.

6.  Obviously Tom Brady's record streak of consecutive passes without an interception is amazing, but his overall total of 4 interceptions in 492 attempts (or 0.8%) is mind-boggling too.  The "record" interception percentage for a single season is 0.4% by Damon Huard, who threw a single interception in 244 attempts in 2006.  That's awesome, but it was in half a season of work, so it can't really compare.  The only other full-time starter in the modern era to have only 4 interceptions was Steve DeBerg, who threw 4 interceptions in 444 attempts in 1990 (also for Kansas City).  That was a very strange year for DeBerg, who was not a great quarterback and had a career interception percentage over 4.0%.




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/3/2011 6:17:45 AM)

Jamal Charles' season has definitely gone under the radar. If he played for the Cowboys he'd be discussed as a potential league MVP.

Clearly some teams packed it in early yesterday. Try to imagine the number of lopsided games at the end of an 18 game season involving eliminated teams with players wanting to avoid injuries.

Wallace is the reason the JETS have Santonio Holmes for a 5th RD pick.

I was not overly impressed watching Sam Bradford last night. Somehow in my mind I had built him up to be the next Peyton Manning.

These playoffs will be hard to predict but I will take the Eagles over the Packers and agree with your other selections. If both the Ravens and Jets advance, the next round will feature division showdowns between NE-NYJ and BAL-PIT. At this stage I like BAL's chances better than NE's, but each would be a pronounced underdog.

Edit: Part of the Ravens underwhelming success this year has been under the radar stuff: Flacco threw only 9 INTs all year, 5 v. the Bengals and only 4 in the other 14 games. Ray Rice never fumbled the ball all season. Ed Reed after missing the first six games of the season finished with 8 INTs. The team drastically cut its commission of penalties.

All the above helped compensate for an aging defense and a middling offense.




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/3/2011 6:57:05 AM)


As for season surprises, the drama of Donovan McNabb in WASH ranks high. What happened there? Where do you see McNabb next season, and do you think he has anything left in the tank?

Why did Holgrem snub Jim Brown in CLE?

What happens to Randy Moss next season? (Talk about addition by subtraction!)

Is Jeff Fisher out in TN?

Chris Johnson did not approach 2000 yards this season.

How much buzz will the NFL lose if there is a lockout? The NFL has such an advantage over the other major sports, namely baseball and basketball. It has an important regular season. The off season is exciting for all the teams. Plus, as a league, it shows that less is more (less games = more interest and more relevance.)

Going to an 18 game season will tilt the NFL's balance toward the NBA and MLB models.




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/3/2011 7:53:56 AM)

Everyone I've ever heard has come out against the eighteen-game season, so if the owners go ahead with it anyway, they're only going to have themselves to blame for fucking with the game. Goodell keeps talking about how no one is interested in the NFL preseason. Want to know what no one is going to be interested in? All the third-string quarterbacks that we're going to see.




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/5/2011 8:32:42 PM)

I new Mangini was toast after the Steelers blew his house down in two puffs. At least the Browns will know to keep searching for a QB while building their offense around Peyton Hillis.

I got a look at SD's number, and I bet its the first time in NFL history that a team has finished #1 in offense and defense AND MISSED THE PLAYOFFS!

Special teams and turnovers count for a lot.......

NE's turnover margin is fucking insane, +28 if I recall!




Lordandmaster -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/5/2011 10:32:20 PM)

Yes, and SD's turnover margin was negative.  Good teams don't have negative turnover margins.  The single most important stat in all of football is turnover margin.  Another very important stat that tempers total yards gained and allowed is red-zone scoring.  SD's offensive red-zone scoring percentage was 55.9%, which is mediocre (12th).  Their defensive red-zone scoring percentage was 62.8%, which is downright horrible (28th).  You can move the ball up and down the field and stop your opponents, but if you turn the ball over, give up too many red-zone points, and absolutely suck on special teams, you're not going to make the playoffs.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I got a look at SD's number, and I bet its the first time in NFL history that a team has finished #1 in offense and defense AND MISSED THE PLAYOFFS!

Special teams and turnovers count for a lot.......

NE's turnover margin is fucking insane, +28 if I recall!




cloudboy -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/7/2011 8:13:51 PM)


You better find that lucky charm soon, the JETS take the field tomorrow night away in the dome.




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/7/2011 8:22:04 PM)

Harbaugh got married to the 49ers today!  What a freak show in Miami trying to get him.  Failed!




TheRaptorJesus -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/8/2011 12:28:00 AM)

Did you people that thought Tebow was a bad pick come to your senses yet?




KatyLied -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/8/2011 5:11:50 AM)

Check back after he wins some playoff games.




flcouple2009 -> RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread (1/8/2011 6:00:31 AM)

Check back when they play games where he is the quarterback and the game plan starts focusing on him.

The real trick in the NFL is being successful after everyone has game footage to break down.




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