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da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:13:28 AM

MissyRane

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dadada.. ok I have a question, why does it seem that so many subs/slaves whine because they can't find a dominant but you can barely ever bump into a dominant whine about that they can't find a real sub/slave. (or well that's my experience..)
I mean just think about it. Is it that because someone is submissive they believe they're more entitled to whine than the dominants or is it just that they become submissive 'cause they're attention freaks? or or or?
Is it just me or is the number of subs/slaves whining about those things increasing like 220% a day?

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:16:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

dadada.. ok I have a question, why does it seem that so many subs/slaves whine because they can't find a dominant but you can barely ever bump into a dominant whine about that they can't find a real sub/slave. (or well that's my experience..)
I mean just think about it. Is it that because someone is submissive they believe they're more entitled to whine than the dominants or is it just that they become submissive 'cause they're attention freaks? or or or?
Is it just me or is the number of subs/slaves whining about those things increasing like 220% a day?

/shrug

Maybe they think that if they whine about it, they will get huge amounts of sympathy? Or maybe, they are just bored with their life and the only way they can liven it up is to whine about everything? Who knows.
Personally, I have found that the ones who whine the most, are the ones who are really only looking to get laid real fast...submissive and dominant. That's just my xp though.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:17:40 AM

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dunno. i'd be interested to know the ratio of subs:Doms here tho. maybe Doms just tend to be the "strong and silent" type who go out and chop wood or something instead of whining? *shrugs helplessly*

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:20:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

dadada.. ok I have a question, why does it seem that so many subs/slaves whine because they can't find a dominant but you can barely ever bump into a dominant whine about that they can't find a real sub/slave. (or well that's my experience..)
I mean just think about it. Is it that because someone is submissive they believe they're more entitled to whine than the dominants or is it just that they become submissive 'cause they're attention freaks? or or or?
Is it just me or is the number of subs/slaves whining about those things increasing like 220% a day?

Sorry, no idea, interesting question though.

HalloweenWhite.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:23:38 AM

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My opinion is that if they do it right, they will call attention to themselves and end up with some mail in their inbox. I see Dominants whine too but really it's nowhere near the same amount as the submissive whines that are floating about. I also agree that they are increasing substantially. It gets old. Somehow it is always our (the dominants) fault though that they are not finding their perfect match.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:25:20 AM

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mhm yup I'm blaming it aaaaaaaaall on youuuuuuuuuu!!!..How about a dinner tonight?

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:25:26 AM

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Hmmmmmmm, good question. I prefer to drink the whine...erm wine....myself

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Actually the behaviour of which you type is one I generally find very unbecoming in anyone. Obviously everyone has their days but a constant diet of "ohhhh woooooo is meeeeee" just gets sickening. I tend to avoid those people. But yanno, I don't think most of them have a clue they do it and how pathetic it gets.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:27:33 AM

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Only if you send me tribute and graphic nekkid pics. Then I will consider it ;)

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:29:29 AM

Iskander

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Speaking of chopping, has Johnny brought my axe back yet?

Could it be that whining isn't considered a 'strong' quality, thus avoided by Dominants..
As was mentioned, the whiney subs possibly think it will get them laid and sympathy, it's the naive thought that a sub isn't a strong person, but helpless and this helplessness will be attractive to a D..

The naive Doms don't need to whine, they have the classic "On your knees and worship me" approach that they think will have subs swooning over them and get them laid...

Iskander...

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:31:50 AM

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I am quite envious because that has not been my experience at all. I have found people who are dominants to be equal opportunity whiners. Just post a thread using the terms fakes, real or about moving to real time, messages and profiles and see them come out of the woodwork. I have to say 50% of the messages I have received and profiles I have read have comments in them that are purely in the whine category.

Whines/bitches are human nature and not exclusive to submissive or dominant and male or female. Some people live their entire life wallowing in it and some rarely if ever do. Most of us are somewhere in between.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:35:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston

Only if you send me tribute and graphic nekkid pics. Then I will consider it ;)

sounds fair

....when I've found them that is

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:36:53 AM

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Dear MissyRane, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Only the whiners really know.

We can all assume why or to place theory upon such but, sometimes I sense some whine but, really is a lamenting. Sifting through the whine, there may be nuggets that sway me from just whining and a lament. Fine line though.

To hear whining, I can only think for my mind's eye point of view. As a woman and with kids or without them, to hear a kid whine or an adult male whine; is like fingernails on a chalkboard. It is something to escape from immediately.

A lament--I can listen to, as it be like an Greek Tragedy. Everybody has tragedy in their lives. The latest for me was in 2005. Those who ring a lament in my mind's eye will get words of what I feel from the heart.

You are correct, in which Female Dominants do seemingly habor their sorrows and lonesome feelings inside. Only in quiet places and without witnesses, we cry as deeply as any other soul. Female slaves are given great latitude on expressing emotions but, I do feel that as dominants, we're held to a standard of being strong. So, self imposed control and composure is a dominant's strong suite.

It is my feelings, that dominant women grieve deeply and strongly but, don't permit such feelings to surface, as other dominants both men and women--our peers may, and I repeat may--feel that it is a sign of weakness. But, when there are close friends or if there is a slave who is so entrenched in your life as to share with them; then dominants can grieve.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:39:21 AM

LaTigresse

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Dearest LadyHugs,

You have outed me!

With warm hugs to you,

LeeAnn

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:51:24 AM

juliaoceania

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quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

I am quite envious because that has not been my experience at all. I have found people who are dominants to be equal opportunity whiners. Just post a thread using the terms fakes, real or about moving to real time, messages and profiles and see them come out of the woodwork. I have to say 50% of the messages I have received and profiles I have read have comments in them that are purely in the whine category.

Whines/bitches are human nature and not exclusive to submissive or dominant and male or female. Some people live their entire life wallowing in it and some rarely if ever do. Most of us are somewhere in between.

I tend to agree with this, I have noticed both whine, in different ways. Dominants often post threads that whine but they project their lack of a sub on to submissives. Submissives tend to internalize why they cannot find a dominant... they are doing something wrong, this is not always the case, but it happens this way quite often

Now the reason for the difference in whining style? Well dominants have more control over where relationships go perhaps? Perhaps my perception is totally off.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:56:30 AM

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I agree that the submissives that whine tend to be the ones that want to get laid and aren't...in my experience. I can recall an incident when out socially (vanilla) with friends, a sub started whining that he hadn't been played with in ages and hinting to me that I should play with him very soon (something we had been discussing but as he wasn't someone I was particularly attracted to I was in no rush) Even though I was not in Domme mode that evening, I snapped into it real quick to tell him that if he didn't stop whining this second he never would be played with. I cannot abide the whining of grown men!

Have I heard Dominants whine? Sure....but whether I class them as true Dominants is another thing. For example, recently at a large lifestyle event a self titled 'Master' trolled just about every female in attendance with really bad manners and when he didn't get the attention he was looking for actually went to the event organizers and whined to them!! Turned out he was a total newbie, no experience at all and had no real clue what the Lifestyle was about.

There are some people that think our Lifestyle will offer them the opportunity to have a relationship that the default world does not because they have zero social and relationship skills, and when they find out it doesn't they whine...or they create huge conspiracy theories about people in the Lifestyle being out to ruin them.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 7:58:17 AM

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Maybe but when dominants whine I think they do try n put it down more subtle I really don't see them screaming boohooo in their posts..but anyhow..
Lady Hugs..oh you are such a gem I so agree with you.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 8:07:06 AM

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Oh hell.... face it... this is just a good place to blow off steam. No matter of Dom or sub... when you can't bitch about what really is bothering you... you find a substitute....what tickles me.. is the ones who bitch and complain about not having... but won't get off pc and go out and find.....

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 10:43:28 AM

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i have to agree with the theory that when it's an s/ type looking, they come asking for advice on how to fix themselves to present a better package.. and do a little bit of advertising on the side.

The big D's tend to cajole s-types to just BE better packages. They tend to present Their findings of sub-standard offerings at the buffet rather than something within Themselves. and do a little bit of advertising on the side.

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 10:46:17 AM

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Does this mean that switches are entitled to whine twice as much, because there are neither good doms nor subs, or only half as much, because they have double the options in the first place?

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RE: da whining of da subs vs. da whining of da dominants - 10/16/2006 10:52:20 AM

juliaoceania

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mavis

i have to agree with the theory that when it's an s/ type looking, they come asking for advice on how to fix themselves to present a better package.. and do a little bit of advertising on the side.

The big D's tend to cajole s-types to just BE better packages. They tend to present Their findings of sub-standard offerings at the buffet rather than something within Themselves. and do a little bit of advertising on the side.

You mean if I were to say something like "Woe-is-me,... I just cannot find an uber-domly-lord-ofthe-universe... all of you email me are fakers wannabes, what am I doing wrong?" this is actually a mating call? Very cool! I am going to make a note of this for my thesis paper on the mating behavior of submissives

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