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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 5:53:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MarkWilliam

I'm sure this isn't a new topic by any means, but I'm curious to know what tricks (ie techniques) prospective subs and slaves have up their sleeves to weed out the many fakes amongst us.

I know I'm sincere about who I say I am and what I want, but how would you go about getting me to prove it?


No tricks here.
Just healthy boundaries, well-developed intuition and patience.

And even if there were some tricks we subs had up our sleeves, what makes you think we'd tell you?
You don't know the secret handshake.
First rule of submissives' secret tricks: There are no secret tricks.
Just like there is no Fight Club.


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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 6:26:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jeff,

I agree with you...and I think you left the remote under the bag of chips <wink>.

Blessed BE

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 6:27:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BillsGalSusan

This my be a bit off topic, but I wanted to say how much I admire the perseverance and thoughtfulness with which so many of you do this hard thing--especially those folks who are no longer 20 somethings and are making this effort to find happiness, despite not exactly terrific odds. Bill and I fell into each others lives a long time ago, and I don't know that I would have had the courage to take this journey toward fulfilment if I had to make the huge effort I see people making here.

Another Susan



Thanks for the support Susan. It is a road worth traveling..as you know.

Blessed Be

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 6:51:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		fakes foneys I do wonder if maybe all these fakes exist... or is it just that the other person isnt what we wanted and because they arent what we wanted or dont have the same take on BDSM as us that we call them fakes???

I think we as a whole are just far too judgmental

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 8:41:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SweetSerendipity

Jeff,

I agree with you...and I think you left the remote under the bag of chips <wink>.

Blessed BE


Well, thank you.  But the chips are getting tossed.  I'm losing weight to get back in the game.  And I also need to responsibly use nipple clamps.  (Maybe the right answer was to bullwhip them off.)  I've got a couple months to do both.

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 8:47:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, no, no.......you attach long lined wieghts to the clamps. The sub is bound ,bent over. To the weights are attached feathers.

Then you let the cats into the room............

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 7/31/2006 10:10:03 PM   
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When in doubt, trust your gut feeling.  Never rush in where your intestines fear to tread.


I have no doubt that this is excellent advice. The problem is that while I am questioning the authenticity of this person, I don't want to drive them away, in case they are real. So, until I uncover something truly untrustworthy, for me, it's a matter of being cautiously optimistic.  

 
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ORIGINAL: zumala
If this person's given you their name, you can probably find out a lot about them.  But I suspect 'supa spy' tactics might make them nervous about /you/ instead if they learn of it.  Honestly, time will always tell.  For LDR, I've found that it works for me if I go like this (no particular time frames set for any phase): 1) e-mail, 2) chat, 3) phone and THEN 4) face-to-face meeting somewhere public.  Never be in a hurry.  There should be a plethora of things you can discuss online that will further illuminate this person's character.  If they won't talk or keep steering to topics already covered, I'd be suspicious.
 


I do try to keep my grappling hooks and night-vision goggles in the bag, taking them out only in case of certain situations. This was the kind of thing where they knew more about me than I knew about them right off the bat, and I was concerned about the possibility of blackmail.
I fully intend on taking your advice, and that of those who have posted, though. Should be moving into phase 2 of Operation: Domme Storm soon. Chat to AIM missiles armed, and locked on target!

That's not nearly as violent/psychotic as it sounds, believe me.

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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

Big red flag there.



Yep. Hoping I can get some more substantial info out of a chatting session or two. If not, then I'll just have to give up and lament what could've been. Maybe I'll write a song about it.

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/1/2006 7:53:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

fakes foneys I do wonder if maybe all these fakes exist... or is it just that the other person isnt what we wanted and because they arent what we wanted or dont have the same take on BDSM as us that we call them fakes???

I think we as a whole are just far too judgmental


Oh some fakes are real. The trick is to tell the true fakes from those we are kidding ourselves about.

I mean, right or wrong?

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/1/2006 12:21:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Homestead

No, no, no.......you attach long lined wieghts to the clamps. The sub is bound ,bent over. To the weights are attached feathers.

Then you let the cats into the room............


*squeals*  Man, that's pure evil!  Evil genius.  LOL.  I love my cats, but I don't think I'd want them getting playful in a situation like that.
 
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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/1/2006 12:31:53 PM   
Homestead


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Spoilsport!

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/1/2006 12:35:39 PM   
zumala


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Status: offline 		Shhhhh, they'll hear you!  They know I can't deny them any catly pleasures in life, and I don't want them getting any ideas. 
 
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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/1/2006 5:30:26 PM   
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Fakes, tricks, manipulations.... I have no time or need for that sort of B.S..
No tricks up my sleeves. No games I play. No nonsense, either way.

I am sad that perhaps one or two I have known  = have been hurt, felt loss, denied themselves happiness - because that they can't BELIEVE, TRUST a fair and decent woman exists.

Decent, kind, good at heart. Sometimes, for lack of experience, nervousness, whatever-  one may act goofy. Be too shy (yes, its been pointed out to me that shyness is rather self centered) to fully show, express how special, great, admired he is. How in awe the small one may be. Stuff like that.
 
I hate to see anyone, and this includes Dominants - be fooled by the players.
There are submissives - yes, girls- who are soo slick they know just the line to use. Men and women- don't fall for that either.
 
Someone who may come across as "junk" may be new to the scene. Maybe they freeze up and become less articulate than usual under your powerful eye.
Maybe they talk as pure expression, not as sales pitch or resume.  Not out of some handbook on protocol.
Perhaps, telling you an experience to give you insight into what they can be used for, what they have to offer, to share -

- BECAUSE THEY ARE OFFERING YOU THE OPTION OF MAKING THAT DECISION. 

It doesn't mean they are "all about me". It may mean they are NOT bragging. Not boasting about themselves or importantly about what they can do for you, as if you are weak and incompetant.  
Truly humble.  Underneath,  a "newbie" or "wannabee"- may be a diamond mine, a beautiful gem. A treasure. A keeper.
 
One who has it all down pat. Knows allll the answers just could be a landmine. The type who will callously hop over anyone if something "better" comes their way. 
 
Now, of course, this is far from an absolute, or even the norm or maybe even common.
Just please beware -  a great white shark in bunny's clothing; a trembling kitten hiding as a pitbull.   Ya know...
Thanks for allowing this rant.     and forgiving the cliches ;)
Fawne
 

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/2/2006 6:51:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat
fakes foneys I do wonder if maybe all these fakes exist... or is it just that the other person isnt what we wanted and because they arent what we wanted or dont have the same take on BDSM as us that we call them fakes???


I agree with you on this one.  If somebody is honest, what more can you ask?  If they are not honest, just listen for a while and they will display their character to any who chooses to pay attention.


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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/2/2006 7:52:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

fakes foneys I do wonder if maybe all these fakes exist... or is it just that the other person isnt what we wanted and because they arent what we wanted or dont have the same take on BDSM as us that we call them fakes???

I think we as a whole are just far too judgmental


It gets confusing when different bunches of fakes start calling other bunches of fakes ''fakes''...

Botton line:  Unless you know the secret code word in addition to the secret handshake, as well as the secret hineylick maueuver to ensure safety... it's far too obvious that your fakeness is hanging out all over the place and your fake faking has been outted by a lessor fake, discounting the overall value of your fake faking and your ability to keep it up... you're hosed!


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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/2/2006 8:05:31 AM   
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NastyDaddy said:  It gets confusing when different bunches of fakes start calling other bunches of fakes ''fakes''...

Botton line:  Unless you know the secret code word in addition to the secret handshake, as well as the secret hineylick maueuver to ensure safety... it's far too obvious that your fakeness is hanging out all over the place and your fake faking has been outted by a lessor fake, discounting the overall value of your fake faking and your ability to keep it up... you're hosed!


This is why I keep a list of fake fakes and faux fakes.  The fake fakes faking reveals them to be faux fake fakers, and in the faux fakes' faking I find who is fake or faux.  Some of the fake fakes are foes, and some are faux foes are friends.  Eventually I can tell the fake fakes foes from the faux fakes friends.  Fin.

E.

< Message edited by Emperor1956 -- 8/2/2006 8:10:26 AM >

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RE: Genuine or junk? - 8/2/2006 8:17:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't call how we weed out fakes tricks, but most of us do use a red flag system and as has been stated, we give it time. For those who are fake, they tend to trip on themselves in thier lies, and there are also red flags that give us signals to let us know something about that person isn't right.
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