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Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha cons.... - 2/18/2014 8:19:10 AM   
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The cons were sooooo sure they had a live one, a winner with Joe the plunger.....


When I saw the so called "heroic smack-down" of the President by Joe(not his real name) the plumber,I was impressed(for the 1st time w/ Obama) with the way the president handled Joe.


With respect and close attention to "joe`s" comments and questions, the President responded with reasonanble thoughts and with what he`d do as POTUS.


It was billed by the right as a defeat for Obama when actually it was quite the opposite.


Upon subsequent viewings, one could tell that joe was coached and had a Palin-level understanding of capitalism.


Then of coarse we found out he was a huge fraud, with zero business skill, who owed taxes and wasn`t even a plumber.


Which of course was accompanied by the obligatory pantie-bunching and whining that "joe" was victimized by the MSM cuz we found that stuff out.....


News flash...joe`s got a real job...

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 10:19:23 AM   
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http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/18/joe-plumber-lands-union-job-report-says/
The cons were sooooo sure they had a live one, a winner with Joe the plunger.....


Clueless much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber

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When I saw the so called "heroic smack-down" of the President by Joe(not his real name) the plumber,I was impressed(for the 1st time w/ Obama) with the way the president handled Joe.


Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher.

Who knew that anyone using their middle name instead of their first name was a fraud?!?

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With respect and close attention to "joe`s" comments and questions, the President responded with reasonanble thoughts and with what he`d do as POTUS.
It was billed by the right as a defeat for Obama when actually it was quite the opposite.


A defeat for Obama? The "reasonable" response (distributing wealth is good for everyone) was not billed as a defeat for Obama, but as a damn good reason he shouldn't be voted in as President.

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Upon subsequent viewings, one could tell that joe was coached and had a Palin-level understanding of capitalism.


Proof?

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Then of coarse we found out he was a huge fraud, with zero business skill, who owed taxes and wasn`t even a plumber.


Proof of zero business skill?

The tax issue:
    quote:

    ABC News reported on October 16, 2008, that there was a judgment lien against Wurzelbacher for non-payment of $1,182 in owed Ohio state income taxes dating to January 2007, but "no action has been taken against him outside of filing the lien." Barb Losie, deputy clerk of the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas, said that "there is a 99 percent chance [Wurzelbacher] doesn't know about the lien, unless he did a credit report or was ready to pay his taxes."[68] While on Hannity & Colmes, Wurzelbacher stated that he was unaware of the tax lien prior to it being reported in the press.[69] The taxes were paid on November 6.[70]


Not that that matters, apparently.

Not a plumber?
    quote:

    "Mr. Joseph [business manager of the local union] said Mr. Wurzelbacher could only legally work in the townships, but not in any municipality in Lucas County or elsewhere in the country."


Looks like he was quite able to work as a plumber outside municipalities, and was employed as a plumber, so...

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Which of course was accompanied by the obligatory pantie-bunching and whining that "joe" was victimized by the MSM cuz we found that stuff out.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Ohio_database_searches_of_Joe_Wurzelbacher

The victimization wasn't that the info was found out, but how it was obtained.

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News flash...joe`s got a real job...


So, any job isn't a real job unless it's a non-Union job?

Better tell your elected representatives they aren't working a real job then.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/02/17/Joe-the-Plumber-Wurzelbacher-hired-by-Chrysler-Corporation.html

To work at Chrysler, Union membership is mandatory. There is no option. Toledo is also a deeply Union town. Surprise, surprise. He got a job at a Union shop that required he join a Union, and, lo and behold, he joined the Union.

What isn't determined, though, is if Ohio was a Right to Work state, would he have joined the Union or worked there outside the Union?

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 11:09:33 AM   
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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 11:28:08 AM   
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He HAS to work at Chrysler?........


Is there any reason he can't work at Chrysler?

(thanks for the tacit admission that you were wrong about the other stuff, too)


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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 1:11:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		To work at Chrysler, Union membership is mandatory. There is no option. Toledo is also a deeply Union town. Surprise, surprise. He got a job at a Union shop that required he join a Union, and, lo and behold, he joined the Union.

So union places are hiring?  Seems like someone better go laugh at the dipshits down there in the house, the nutsackers.


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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 1:19:16 PM   
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To work at Chrysler, Union membership is mandatory. There is no option. Toledo is also a deeply Union town. Surprise, surprise. He got a job at a Union shop that required he join a Union, and, lo and behold, he joined the Union.

So union places are hiring?  Seems like someone better go laugh at the dipshits down there in the house, the nutsackers.



(Ohio became "Right to Work" in 2009).

He can choose to join the union....or not.

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 1:25:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		No. Ohio is a Forced Union state. It is not and has Never been a right to work state. Try Google.

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 1:28:07 PM   
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To work at Chrysler, Union membership is mandatory. There is no option. Toledo is also a deeply Union town. Surprise, surprise. He got a job at a Union shop that required he join a Union, and, lo and behold, he joined the Union.
So union places are hiring?  Seems like someone better go laugh at the dipshits down there in the house, the nutsackers.

(Ohio became "Right to Work" in 2009).
He can choose to join the union....or not.


Um, someone better tell the Ohio legislature and the Toledo Blade (among other newspapers)...

https://www.toledoblade.com/DavidKushma/2014/01/12/Ohio-s-right-to-work-sideshow-can-t-become-main-event.html
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    The right to work. Workplace freedom. No hard-working, hard-pressed Ohioan could resist such benign-sounding slogans, right?

    That’s the expectation of business and ideological lobbies that want to make Ohio the 25th “right to work” state, as soon as this year. [Note: This op ed was from 12 Jan 2014] Labor leaders, liberal advocacy groups, and community organizations, in Toledo and across the state, hope that Ohioans will lift the rhetorical gauze and reject right-to-work as decisively as they voted to repeal the union-busting Senate Bill 5 three years ago.




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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 1:29:58 PM   
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No. Ohio is a Forced Union state. It is not and has Never been a right to work state. Try Google.



Yup.


Senate kills 'right to work' plan for Ohio

Brandon Blackwell, The Plain Dealer By Brandon Blackwell, The Plain Dealer

on May 01, 2013 at 8:00 PM, updated May 01, 2013 at 8:01 PM

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 2:27:18 PM   
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It is abaft the beam in any case because there is no correlation in right to work and employment or forced union and employment.

Its another nutsacker canard.

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 3:07:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
To work at Chrysler, Union membership is mandatory. There is no option. Toledo is also a deeply Union town. Surprise, surprise. He got a job at a Union shop that required he join a Union, and, lo and behold, he joined the Union.
So union places are hiring?  Seems like someone better go laugh at the dipshits down there in the house, the nutsackers.

(Ohio became "Right to Work" in 2009).
He can choose to join the union....or not.


Um, someone better tell the Ohio legislature and the Toledo Blade (among other newspapers)...

https://www.toledoblade.com/DavidKushma/2014/01/12/Ohio-s-right-to-work-sideshow-can-t-become-main-event.html
    quote:

    The right to work. Workplace freedom. No hard-working, hard-pressed Ohioan could resist such benign-sounding slogans, right?

    That’s the expectation of business and ideological lobbies that want to make Ohio the 25th “right to work” state, as soon as this year. [Note: This op ed was from 12 Jan 2014] Labor leaders, liberal advocacy groups, and community organizations, in Toledo and across the state, hope that Ohioans will lift the rhetorical gauze and reject right-to-work as decisively as they voted to repeal the union-busting Senate Bill 5 three years ago.





Shiiiiiiiiiiit........

(That is 3 times in my entire life I was wrrrr....wrrr...wrr....wrrr....misinformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law)

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/18/2014 3:48:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It`s about symbolism....


"joe" (not his real name) was a huge symbol for the right and faux-news...


The "work`n man".....


Joe six-pack....


"Authentic" and "Murican"....


Now, union member.....

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 6:36:26 AM   
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It`s about symbolism....
"joe" (not his real name) was a huge symbol for the right and faux-news...


Samuel Joseph Wurlzelbacher... Joe certainly is his real name.

quote:

The "work`n man".....


He wasn't a working man?

quote:

Joe six-pack....
"Authentic" and "Murican"....


Those are your additions.

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Now, union member.....


And, the point is....? Oh, yeah. Nothing. As usual. Just want to cast aspersions as far and wide as possible.

You have clearly been shown to be lying. Yet, you simply continue the lie.

You must work in the Obama Administration.


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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 6:48:06 AM   
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The "work`n man".....


He wasn't a working man?

-------------------

And, the point is....? Oh, yeah. Nothing. As usual. Just want to cast aspersions as far and wide as possible.

You have clearly been shown to be lying. Yet, you simply continue the lie.

You must work in the Obama Administration.



Two things when joe the plumber (actually joe the nutsacker) was the darling of the nutsackers the anecdote that serves as the synecdoche for the nutsackers was unemployed and a veritable ne-er-do-well at the time, giving lie to the nutsacker producer asswipe.

So far, and mightily so, when one peruses the lies fomented on this site is is clearly a nutsacker shutout, you know, the dildos that call themselves republican, conservative, independent and so on.   

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 6:57:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		What's he talkin about ? Nutsacker.....something something bla bla bla.........what ? What lies ?

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 7:27:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		He was pointing out that 'joe" was/is a fraud.....

And that those who admired him were duped...

And that those who still think "joe" is genuine....are nut-sakers.....


You`re welcome for the translation....

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 7:32:59 AM   
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Joe's question was a valid question, and instead of addressing that, people are attacking Joe himself.

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 7:56:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59
He was pointing out that 'joe" was/is a fraud.....
And that those who admired him were duped...
And that those who still think "joe" is genuine....are nut-sakers.....
You`re welcome for the translation....


Joe is a real person.

How was he a fraud?

How were people duped?


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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 8:05:51 AM   
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He was pointing out that 'joe" was/is a fraud.....

And that those who admired him were duped...

And that those who still think "joe" is genuine....are nut-sakers.....


You`re welcome for the translation....

Obama/Soetoro/Soebarkah is the real fraud....

And that those who admired him were duped...

And that those who still think he is genuine....are either ignoramuses or anti-Americans....

You're welcome for the education....

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RE: Joe "the plumber" lands union job.ha ha c... - 2/19/2014 8:15:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		You calling all those nutsackers down in the house dupes?   Welcome to the intelligent side.

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