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ORIGINAL: ElChupa

Do we pander to those that have their hands out? The obamaphone electorate? We have the socialist party already. Santa Clause. Is it wise for the party to become socialism light? I think not. Leftists/socialists always have the easiest job. Just promise them stuff! Who cares who pays for it. It's much harder to be the party of work hard, pay your taxes, get rewarded for your labor, quit spending money we don't have. We have a sea change in this country and of course it is horrible. We have willingly become of nation of people with their hands out, beggars. Remember the war on poverty? BILLIONS and BILLIONS spent on that. The results? The poverty level has actually gone up. BUT, liberals feel good! It's all about liberals feeling good, folks, not about actually doing anything constructive. I think Republicans give too much credit to the American electorate. I have them totally figured out. The answer for me now is asset protection, asset hiding, block, stop, slow, whatever it takes to halt socialism.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Ok, Moonie, here's her response :)

" Thatcher ended up a very divisive figure so totally understand. Basically, there is a hard left constituency here that I personally think is based on principles of being owed something and begrudges people they perceive have had an unfair leg up. They may be right on the latter point but we are where we are and wealth redistribution doesn't work if you want an economy to grow and benefit all people (it will never benefit all people equally!). In the UK the public sector is about 20% of the workforce, which is huge considering there are only about 30 million people working total. That number is going down because of Tory policies to trim a bloated bureaucracy. Anyway, the Blairites started a good thing bringing the left to modern times, much like Clinton did in the US. Now, the left is moving back in time here. We'll see if the electorate buys it"