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Iamsemisweet -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:04:02 AM)
The bizarre thing is THIS is who he lost to: Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock, who defeated long-time Sen. Richard Lugar in the Republican primary Tuesday, has a new twist on bipartisanship. Reacting to a statement from Lugar slamming his embrace of an "unrelenting partisan mindset," Mourdock said, "I have a mindset that says bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view," he said Wednesday on "Fox & Friends." He continued, "I've said many times through this campaign that one of the things I hope to do is to help build a conservative majority in the United States Senate and continue to help the House build a Republican majority and have a Republican White House and then bipartisanship becomes having Democrats come our way. So that’s what we’re working towards and I think in the days ahead, Mr. Lugar will join our effort." Mourdock, who trounced Lugar by over 20 points with the support of the Tea Party and conservative outside groups, echoed the point on CNN's "Starting Point." Soledad O'Brien pressed him on his notion of compromise, saying, "In fact, the only compromise you'll do is really getting other people on the other side of the aisle to come to your side of the aisle, which I guess is the definition against compromise..." "Well, it is the definition of political effectiveness," he replied. Following his concession speech, Lugar released a stinging statement of warning to Mourdock. "If Mr. Mourdock is elected, I want him to be a good senator. But that will require him to revise his stated goal of bringing more partisanship to Washington," he said. "He and I share many positions, but his embrace of an unrelenting partisan mindset is irreconcilable with my philosophy of governance and my experience of what brings results for Hoosiers in the Senate."

RacerJim -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:08:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy Enjoy your retirement Dickie Boyo... Why you felt you the need to serve 42 years in the United States Senate, boggled me and evidently, so too the primary voters of Indiana who bounced your hubristic ass off the ballot by a 30 point margin! I am not really one for term limits per se, but you should have been required to go at 30 or even at 24. Clearly you are one of the PROBLEMS with Congress. Don't let the door hit you rear end. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/dick-lugar-richard-mourdock-lugar-loses-indiana-republican-senate-primary_n_1501416.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D159050 Clearly THE problem with Congress is the Democratic majority Senate not even proferring a Federal Budget proposal, much less voting on such, since 2009.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:08:52 AM)
Sounds like you either let him play quarterback or he'll take his football and go home and to hell with the country.

RacerJim -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:13:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven A 22 point margin, but still... wow. Looks like the Tea Party will be pushing gridlock in the government again. The gridlock in the government is due to Harry Reid and his left-wing Democratic cohorts in the Senate who haven't even proferred, much less called for a vote on, a Federal Budget proposal since 2009.

subrob1967 -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:14:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet The bizarre thing is THIS is who he lost to: Why is it bizarre? Hoosiers like myself are sick and tired of compromise meaning doing things the Democrat's way. Lugar sold out his conservative principles time after time, and paid for his decisions by an overwhelming defeat. The guy hasn't even lived in Indiana for over thirty six years, and was busted for charging us for his hotel bills while congress was in recess. I'm sorry you don't understand Mourdock's mindset, or those of us who support, and voted for him, but there's nothing bizarre about his position, only your thoughts.

BamaD -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:22:06 AM)
So Murdochis going to play the game the same way the Democrats do, Be resonable, do it my way.

lovmuffin -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:52:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Tea party dead ? Not quite. Unions spent 4 million trying to get their candidate on the ballott to oppose Walker in the recall election. She got 18 % of the democratic primary vote. Maybe I'm missing something. What does the tea party have to do with who wins the Democratic primary? Did they show support for either candidate? The Late Great Bill Janek would refer his reasoning as "talkin chickens and spaghetti". " The Tea Party is dead " I tacked that on to my post in jest. "It's a zit - get it ?"

subspaceseven -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 11:00:56 AM)
Some in the GOP are seeing this for what it is, people who have a belief system and if you do not agree with them, then you do not matter. DANFORTH: If this trend succeeds, yeah. What they will be left with, if indeed they want to purge the party of all but people who have a particular ideological slant… it’s not a way to win elections, it’s not political sustainable. It might make them feel good for a time but doesn’t work, it hasn’t worked. It didn’t work in Nevada or in Delaware in last election. They won nominations but couldn’t win elections. I don’t know how you win elections without getting 51% of the vote. I don’t see how you’re gonna get 51% of the vote if you make it clear that people in your own party, who don’t absolutely agree with everything you want to do, aren’t wanted. He is a former GOP Senator

SternSkipper -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 11:40:19 AM)
quote: " The Tea Party is dead " I tacked that on to my post in jest. "It's a zit - get it ?" Coat-tailing now? I'm flattered.

lovmuffin -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 11:56:47 AM)
Oh don't flatter yourself

SternSkipper -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/9/2012 10:19:34 PM)
quote: Oh don't flatter yourself Nah .. you betray yourself.

hot4bondage -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 8:30:57 AM)
~FR~ It's spelled Lugar. Dick is completely accurate, though. Murdoch calls himself Richard, but he's just another Dick. He says that it’s “utterly specious” to suggest that women have a constitutional right to use contraception. Like all social conservatives, his concept of limited government and personal responsibility is inconsistent. Andy Horning will be on the Indiana ballot this November. He has demonstrated a deep knowledge and respect for the Indiana and US Constitutions that will be evident during the debates. And as a Libertarian, he's currently polling at 7%. Way to go, Indiana.

kalikshama -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 11:19:07 AM)
Richard Mourdock and the GOP's idea of bipartisanship Richard Mourdock, fresh off of defeating Dick Lugar in the Indiana Senate primary, hit the ground running with a quote everyone is talking about this morning: MOURDOCK: I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view. … If we [win the House, Senate, and White House], bipartisanship means they have to come our way, and if we’re successful in getting the numbers, we’ll work towards that. That’s the Republican nominee on MSNBC. What I think is interesting about this is that, by most accounts, Mourdock isn’t really part of the crazy faction of Republican politics. A recent New York Times profile compares him more to Utah Senator Mike Lee than to flaky and failed 2010 nominees Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. That is, Mourdock is part of the new normal in Republican politics, and that’s a “normal” that utterly rejects the notion that any cooperation between the parties is possible — that is, without the other party’s abject capitulation. As I’ve argued, the problem with the Republican Party — the problem that Tom Mann and Norm Ornstein write about in their new diagnosis of dysfunction, It’s Even Worse Than It Looks — isn’t that many of today’s Republicans are extraordinarily conservative. It’s that they reject the kinds of co-operation and compromise with their opponents that a Madisonian system depends upon. What’s depressing about Mourdock’s quote is that it’s not about conservative policy positions or philosophy. It’s all about partisan polarization almost as a primary goal in and of itself — a goal that is now commonly aspired to even by mainstream Republicans. If their most important project during the Obama era has been to make the political system more dysfunctional than ever, that project took another step forward yesterday.

SilverMark -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 11:24:35 AM)
Having grown up in Indiana and in Indianapolis when Lugar was Mayor, the Republicans had better hope he doesn't mount an Independent campaign.....he'll whip both parties.... His popularity inside the state is without equal, his defeat is based on the organization of the tea party....he gets a HEAVY cross over vote every 6 years....and when I lived there, he got mine.

SternSkipper -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 12:53:20 PM)
Hey Mark ... good to see you posting again... and you're right... I find it interesting Dick hasn't apparently given any kind of 'hat rack speech' yet. Wouldn't that be a hoot?

SilverMark -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 1:24:07 PM)
Lugar is about the only Republican that can win even in Lake County Indiana....and that in itself is pretty amazing! He will normally have over 65% of the vote state wide....tells you something, doesn't it!

SilverMark -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 1:30:40 PM)
PS, If he doesn't run, and if Obama wins, and Hilary steps down after the election, he could very well be Secretary of State.

SternSkipper -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 1:58:45 PM)
quote: PS, If he doesn't run, and if Obama wins, and Hilary steps down after the election, he could very well be Secretary of State. Interesting thought. He's been neck deep in foreign policy, that's for sure.

subrob1967 -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 2:05:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark Having grown up in Indiana and in Indianapolis when Lugar was Mayor, the Republicans had better hope he doesn't mount an Independent campaign.....he'll whip both parties.... His popularity inside the state is without equal, his defeat is based on the organization of the tea party....he gets a HEAVY cross over vote every 6 years....and when I lived there, he got mine. No, he won't... We've had enough of the Lugar's and Bayh's in this state. If anything we're going more to the right than ever, just wait til Pence takes over as Governor.

SilverMark -> RE: Dick Luger Loses... (5/10/2012 2:07:15 PM)
One man's opinion....if he decides to run, get back to me, will ya'?

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