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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 6:01:46 PM

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You're counting this twice. Gasoline wasn't $2.50 in nominal terms during the 70's. It was much less.

If it's $2.50 adjusted for inflation in today's money, then it's just $2.50 - it isn't $10.02.

Pick one. You are not using facts.

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President: James Earl Carter, Jr. Vice President: Walter F. Mondale
Population: 220,239,425 Life expectancy: 73.3 years
Dow-Jones High: 999 Low: 800
Federal spending: $409.22 billion Federal debt: $706.4 billion Inflation: 11% Consumer Price Index: 60.6 Unemployment: 7.7%
Prices Cost of a new home: $54,200.00 Cost of a new car: $ Median Household Income: $13,572.00 Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.13 Cost of a gallon of regular gas: $0.62 Cost of a dozen eggs: $0.82 Cost of a gallon of Milk: $1.68

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 6:02:59 PM

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Well that's just a lovely poll number from CNN, Lucy. Meanwhile, Gallup has him at 43% approval, with 48% disapproving. Now I suppose we could bring up the number from Rasmussen, but all the Obamabots have attacked the credibility of that organization, because they often don't like those numbers at all...

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 6:04:17 PM

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Well that's an interesting glitch with the thread title at the top of the page - kinda spooked me for a second

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 6:48:17 PM

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I see some minor correlation but that's it. In 81, you have the inverse correlation you're claiming but 82-89, there really isnt much either way. 91-95, prices drop and the popularity of the prez is flat.
99 thru 2008, the popularity of the prez follows gas prices up and down which is the opposite of what you claim.

It looks to me like some news hack put up a graph and made a claim about it while counting on large numbers of ignorant people to believe him.

1981 was the year Reagan took office. Generally speaking, presidents enjoy a high approval rating during their initial days in office. People thought that he would be the savior after Carter.

1999-2008 gas up, approval up? So you're saying that George Bush got more popular as time marched on?

Please learn how to read charts correctly.

99-2008, gas followed lockstep with approval ratings. when gas was high, approval ratings were high. This also implies the converse. I'm not saying he got more popular. Nice try at strawmanning. As gas went down his approval went down.

As I said before. Some hack writer was hoping that lots of ignorant people wouldn't be able to read a graph so he could claim what he wanted. It appears he found at least one.

ETA. With Dubya's approval rating falling along with gas prices in that graph, is it time for the conspiracy theorists to come out and ask if his friends and contributors in "Tha AWWWWL Bidness" were manipulating prices downward in an attempt to give him a boost?

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 7:58:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail When you don't? Why are the rules different for you and her? Green and blue scratching one unverified and not paticularly causal data, is as useful as the superbowl winner predicting the stockmarket.

I said gas prices and presidential approval ratings are highly correlated. I never said anything was apodictically certain.

You have problems with reading comprehension.

I guess the whole "Correlation does not imply causation" thing hasn't made it your way yet?

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 8:12:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail When you don't? Why are the rules different for you and her? Green and blue scratching one unverified and not paticularly causal data, is as useful as the superbowl winner predicting the stockmarket.

I said gas prices and presidential approval ratings are highly correlated. I never said anything was apodictically certain.

You have problems with reading comprehension.

I guess the whole "Correlation does not imply causation" thing hasn't made it your way yet?

Hell, the graph doesn't even show correlation.

Part of the time, gas prices follow the approval numbers, part of the time, they go the opposite way and part of the time, both are just sitting there flat.

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 8:15:56 PM

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In other news, Nate Silver at 538 suggests that the mean job gains over the next 7 months will be one of the most important predictors of Obama's re-election...

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 8:18:52 PM

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In other news, Nate Silver at 538 suggests that the mean job gains over the next 7 months will be one of the most important predictors of Obama's re-election...

I'll agree with that 100%. Incumbents are hard to beat. If unemployment numbers are going down, they're damn near impossible to beat. If the economy continues to improve, we're stuck with another 4 years of "Hopey changey". I'm not saying Im happy or sad about that, just stating the facts.

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 8:24:58 PM

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I went to Milwaukee yesterday to see the presidents motorcade near Masterlock where he had his little speech. There were about 150 to 200 people on that route. This plant is in a black neighborhood in the inner city of Milwaukee. The turnout was pathetic. Just an observation on my part.

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/16/2012 8:46:11 PM

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This plant is in a black neighborhood in the inner city of Milwaukee. The turnout was pathetic. Just an observation on my part.

That's good... you need to keep observing stuff. It'll keep ya young

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RE: President Obama's approval rating is back to 50% - 2/17/2012 7:09:09 AM

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Well that's just a lovely poll number from CNN, Lucy. Meanwhile, Gallup has him at 43% approval, with 48% disapproving. Now I suppose we could bring up the number from Rasmussen, but all the Obamabots have attacked the credibility of that organization, because they often don't like those numbers at all...

Not a matter of like or dislike of the numbers its that they are invariably incorrect.

And in my opinion cooked.

Numbers coming out of the Islamic Jihad would be more trustworthy.

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