Anaxagoras
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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote:
The concern may also be that Chrysler is agitating for its own interests because a conservative government is far less likely to bail them out again than Obama. Well I suppose that would be the case if you wanted to extrapolate into the area of irrational fears. The fact however is that GM is now the top manufacturer in terms of sales and profit/per unit in the world. And toyota and honda have sunk to the back of the pack. In fact, GM did so well in the past year and a half that the payback was accelerated beyond expectations. Well beyond I read a few conflicting reports on how well Chrysler is doing but I must admit I'm not well up on the facts of the story since its not an issue where I am. Its been said a lot that the US won't get back 1.3 or so billion even with the Obama loan paid back because this relates to the initial Bush loan http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/president-obamas-phony-accounting-on-the-auto-industry-bailout/2011/06/06/AG3nefKH_blog.html and Tazzy's source suggests a good deal of the cash won't be repaid http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/entities/93-chrysler#payments_table (top-right column) but its not clear how they come to that determination. I'm not ideologically opposed to bail-outs but they have to be done very selectively or they can really help fuck up an economy, dragging it down into spiraling dept which will spook the markets more, leading to degraded ratings by the loan agencies. It can lead to a spiralling out of control issue like we have in Europe. A pretty grim situation. quote:
ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote:
If they wanted to report it then fair enough, they should do it out in the open but they did it in a furtive way by placing it in a strongly emotive advert heavily laced with patriotism. They've already DONE that. You're familiar with the nature of the major halftime commercials in the superbowl and what that ritual is all about, right? Those advertisements, or many of them anyway, are tailored to air ONCE and are literally wrapped around the superbowl. It would be an UNGODLY waste of money and the viewer's time to run any commercial that wasn't a) Very Theatrical. And b)If about the United States (this is in no way the first), it will typically be GROSSLY Patriotic. I'm not familiar with superbowl commercials but after you said that they ought to have reported about what worked, they still chose that format rather that issue a statement that could be assessed without the heavily emotive patriotic message mixed in with it. quote:
There was nothing odd about this particular one except that it was narrated by a man with a very favored reputation and a known conservative, and it didn't endorse a republican or continue in the tradition of them claiming credit for anything good since sliced bread. Eastwood is cool and he is entitled to endorse any message or side he chooses. I don't disagree with him being in the advert but rather what Chrysler did themselves. Hell he could even support Ron Paul...
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