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Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:01:49 PM   
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"Mormon Church's Prior Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns For Florida Voters"


Apparently,the Mormon church has been busy posthumously baptizing dead Catholics,Holocaust victims including Ann Frank and even Jesus Christ himself.


Now I guess it`s harmless but I can understand that others might take offense or think of the quaint practice as arrogant and presumptuous.



And apparently,Jewish folks are quite put off by it.



It may have an impact in Florida with the 3rd largest population of Jewish people in the US.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/mormon-church-mitt-romney_n_1229322.html

"Mitt Romney's problem with evangelical Christian voters has been well documented.

But as the Republican presidential nomination fight heats up in Florida, a Mormon rite that leaves many Jews seething could prove awkward for the candidate in a state that's home to more Jewish people than any other besides New York and California.

The religious rite is proxy baptism for the dead. According to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormon Church, these posthumous "blessings" are intended to "save" ancestors and others who weren't baptized in life or were baptized "without proper authority."


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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:09:31 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:11:51 PM   
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I will be watching the vote counts though, to see how many dead people are casting theirs for Mittens...

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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:13:11 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:39:59 PM   
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I wonder if someone is going to ask old Mitt about how he justifies the sexism of his beloved church.  I hope so, because his support of that is reason enough for him not to be president.

Disclaimer:  Raised Mormon.  Still bitter.


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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:40:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I`m sure it`s all done with sincerity and the best intentions .


But it is a bit much.


What other whacked out stuff are they into?





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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:41:09 PM   
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I`m sure it`s all done with sincerity and the best intentions .


But it is a bit much.


What other whacked out stuff are they into?






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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:41:50 PM   
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but that is universal.

they are gonna be real suprised to see me sitting there quaffin a brew with the old man. 

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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 3:43:17 PM   
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I`m sure it`s all done with sincerity and the best intentions .


But it is a bit much.


What other whacked out stuff are they into?






mmmmm..


How so?

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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 4:06:37 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 4:10:45 PM   
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On a personal note, I distinctly remember a lady from my church telling me at great length how her undergarments kept her safe when an intruder broke into her home.
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Magic underwear
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m sure it`s all done with sincerity and the best intentions .


But it is a bit much.


What other whacked out stuff are they into?






mmmmm..


How so?


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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 4:20:39 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 4:34:54 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 4:56:10 PM   
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I`m sure it`s all done with sincerity and the best intentions .


But it is a bit much.





It's not a bit much, it's downright offensive. Many of my relatives were put to death for believing in their religion. They believed enough to not hide it. To have some Mormon decide to change their religion posthumously after they fought so hard to keep it is just disgusting and disrespectful.

The Mormon church says "officially" that they don't do this anymore, but it's still going on. One of my ex-coworker's mother enjoyed being the proxy in these ceremonies.


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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 5:22:35 PM   
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I love the tolerance and acceptance!

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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 5:32:04 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 5:39:14 PM   
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YAY! Mormon bashing!


I love the tolerance and acceptance!

So we are to accept any behavior or belief no matter how offensive or demeaning under the guise of religion.....why?


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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 5:53:25 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 5:57:18 PM   
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RE: Mitt Might Have a Dead People Baptism Problem - 1/25/2012 6:22:55 PM   
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YAY! Mormon bashing!


I love the tolerance and acceptance!

So we are to accept any behavior or belief no matter how offensive or demeaning under the guise of religion.....why?



How can a dead person possibly be offended?

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