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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 10:29:12 PM

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I heard him, disgusting little ferret

Ouch!......lol

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 10:41:11 PM

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"I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid in the early 1960s when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa hospital in San Antonia, and the churches took care of them," Paul said. "We never turned anybody away from the hospital. And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves, our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea -- that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy."

Lucy... I love ya darlin' I really do but there is a whole LOT of truth in that quote. I am no Paulist by any stretch but he's not wrong on this.

He is, so far as the churches didn`t pick up all the slack and many people suffered and died because of it.

Not that that matters to cons.Those poor, put upon, victimized cons........You don`t care about the 30 million Americans without healthcare now.Let alone back when Paul started to practice.

At some point you cons will fess up and admit it`s not about what system is better or works best,etc.

The reason cons are against socialized medicine is on principal,only.Not on merit.

They`ll spend double the average per head,pay through the nose for drugs and give up their homes through medical bankruptcy,just on principal.

You don`t lose your home in Canada from medical bills.

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 10:52:09 PM

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"principal"

Please renew my respect by affirming that you indeed meant principal and not principle, and spelled it accordingly. Spelling is so terrible on this forum sometimes. One non error like this could restore my, ummm, well I have no idea what faith is, every confidence has been broken, lesse here.........

Nope ain't no word for it. Oh well.

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 11:08:06 PM

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"principal"

Please renew my respect by affirming that you indeed meant principal and not principle, and spelled it accordingly. Spelling is so terrible on this forum sometimes. One non error like this could restore my, ummm, well I have no idea what faith is, every confidence has been broken, lesse here.........

Nope ain't no word for it. Oh well.

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It would be entirely by accident if he spelled it correctly, but he didnt. There is no way he has enough wit to spell it that way intentionally.

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 11:12:52 PM

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You two could be my spellcheck boys.....

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/17/2011 11:34:24 PM

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If this day gets any funnier I may have to burst

Good thing this forum has its very own Medic.

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/18/2011 5:06:18 AM

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I think he is too quick to blame the high cost of healthcare today simply on a government bureaucracy.

In Ron Paul's medical world of old, there wasn't any private sector investors involved in the mix, either. Most hospitals were affiliated with non-profit entities like municipalities, churches, colleges, and organized charities and were often built using municipal bonds. Facilities were simple looking, utilitarian, functional. The goal was to minimize disease rather than manage disease, as that approach minimized costs.

Today, those non-profit facilities have been bought up by for-profit investors. The need to service those investors has added a parasitic layer of costs that did not exist before. With new access to private money, the facilities have been renovated and now rival the appearance of palaces owned by middle east dictators. Costly diagnostic machines with a heavy per-use pricetag must now be kept busy. Close to 30% of hospital stays today are unnecessary, and they only happen because the beds are there and the need to profit off those beds exists. The focus has shifted from avoiding disease to inviting disease in order to profit on managing it on a long term basis.

I think its a bit of a stretch to blame a government bureaucracy for all of this. At what point does the finger of blame start to point at the private sector?

Healthcare has wrongly become just another area for investors to invest in. Just like housing wrongly became an investment vehicle. After we gutted the manufacturing base, the appetite for investor (welfare) returns has outpaced Main Street's ability to generate the needed returns. So the investment world got creative to fill that void and keep the welfare checks coming in, and suddenly, all these aspects of daily life, from things like owning a house and treating disease, suddenly had to be converted into fertile ground for investors to participate in.

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RE: Ron Paul Picks Up a Key Endorsement - 9/18/2011 6:56:27 AM

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