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Lucylastic -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 2:40:22 PM)

Bloody excellent response!
I mean it too..

I may have been wrong about you then...you will have to bear with me, being wrong isnt something that happens to me a lot***
I really think tho that you are hoping for too much on this particular part of the forums.
Until the politicians actually get their fingers out and do something for the good of the american people, discussing whos shit stinks more is going to be the tone.
Finer discourse doesn't last long here, we have way toooo many dysfunctional minds. thats just a friendly hello, no matter what side you are on, the wrongside, the right side and the truth, (which is usually somewhere in the middle)



***snort ok I couldnt keep a straight face:)***




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 3:21:50 PM)

Lucy,

Thank you**

Yeah, maybe I am hoping for too much. But, if you cynically just give up, you will change nothing. I am not counting on the politicians to change, I am counting on the people. We can change the tone based on how we look at, hold accountable, and vote for our politicians. We need to do good for ourselves, then maybe they will do good for us. I am working the the forum in hopes to make a direct impact on the base level. Avoid the elected liars.

**As long as you really mean it ;)**




thishereboi -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:42:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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Unfortunately, a lot of congress should be locked up for various reasons.
I am sure you are right, but right now we are talking about one asshole...errr....man here.

Call me wierd, boi, but I have this idea that those who want to lead should be held to a bit of a higher standard.
And if they don't by breaking the law, then they should get locked up.

That's why I was one of those who said Weiner should resign.
Yea, he was another fine example of asshattery.


I'll only disagree with you one one fine point there, boi. Anyone who would refuse to support their child(ren) is NOT a man.


You are right. I stand corrected. [:)]




tazzygirl -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 8:43:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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Is any one surprised?


Surprised about what? That some asshole isn't paying child support? It happens all the time. It's just a shame that they don't lock more of the deadbeats up. Or maybe you think I am surprised that this is being turned into another right bashing thread and no I am not surprised about that either. Some of the more rabid bigots on this board don't know how to do anything else.



Who are the rabid bigots, boi? People complaining about a man who states the government should put its house in order (which I firmly agree with) while said man at the same time cant seem to pay his own bills? Same man who has had his license suspended numerous times, and still drove? The same man who stated he was broke while owing his children support in excess of 100,000 dollars... yet donating 35000 to a political campaign?

Surely you cannot be in defense of his actions.




tazzygirl -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 8:48:38 AM)

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The simple fact is that we shouldn't boil a scandal like this down to politics. It isn't political, it is simply a story about an asshole who should be sued and have his drivers license taken away (refering to dead beat dad laws). Politicians are lying whores. You shouldn't defend them because they are from your party, nor should you condemn the ideology because of the actions of one individual. I have never met a Republican politician who was a moral person, nor have I met a Democtrat politician who was actually an intellectual.


He has had his license suspended many times... and still continued to drive.




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 10:40:42 AM)

Then he should be jailed for driving without a license. It is the weakness of the justice system, and the lack of public interest that allows this crap to go on.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:32:10 PM)

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:35:01 PM)

FR

Dont get confused between this Joe Walsh and Crazy Joe :)



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Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:38:56 PM)

That's unlikely: the one who used to be in the Eagles pays his bills.




Anaxagoras -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:40:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
That's unlikely: the one who used to be in the Eagles pays his bills.

Isn't he still in the Eagles? He was reputedly the highlight of their reunion gigs two or so years ago.




Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:49:09 PM)

I was forgetting that they were still an ongoing thing since the last reformation, to be honest.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:49:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
That's unlikely: the one who used to be in the Eagles pays his bills.

Isn't he still in the Eagles? He was reputedly the highlight of their reunion gigs two or so years ago.


The only worthwhile member of the Eagles anymore, imho. Dont blame his mental state on drugs though. He was like that before the James Gang even, lol.

One show I regret never seeing was "The Best", Crazy Joe, Keith Emerson, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, and John Entwistle.

BTW, a certain Doll here doubts my career details so he can pissoff on the rest of this post, but early on I was the enrolled actuary for Jeff Skunk Baxter (his corporation was named Disappearing, Inc., one of my favorites ever!),


Also for The Eagles (pre Joe Walsh I think, but not sure), Stevie Nicks, Meat Loaf (under his real name) and Im sure a few others Im forgetting. Never met a damn one of them though just their business managers! And if youre a Steely Dan fan I can tell you a funny story about Walter Becker on St. Patricks day 1975 :).




tazzygirl -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 1:56:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

Then he should be jailed for driving without a license. It is the weakness of the justice system, and the lack of public interest that allows this crap to go on.


And yet when its pointed out what he is doing, we are told that we cant complain because he isnt the only one.

Sorry, gotta start somewhere. Just like with Weiner... who I stated from the start should resign... this is another one.




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 4:20:02 PM)

I don't make that arguement at all. I agree nail the bastards, everyone of them, for being scum.




Arturas -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 4:39:43 PM)

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Representative Joe "Dead-Be Dad" Walsh obviously knows all about deficit spending and not paying one's bills.

He "won’t place one more dollar of debt upon the backs of my kids" - but he's already effectively put $100,000 of debt on the backs of his kids by his "no compromise" position on paying his child support.

He probably considers his court-ordered child support to be a "wasteful entitlement" and not an obligation. Shows great "family values", doesn't he?



I'm not sure where you got any facts to support such a post. Can you point me to something factual to support this because after all the statement in the press is not that he owes such money, no, it instead states that his wife's lawyer made in a filing to that effect and certainly you would agree that simply filing a statement in court does not make it a fact, would you not?

Well wishes,
Arturas




Anaxagoras -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:04:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
That's unlikely: the one who used to be in the Eagles pays his bills.

Isn't he still in the Eagles? He was reputedly the highlight of their reunion gigs two or so years ago.

The only worthwhile member of the Eagles anymore, imho. Dont blame his mental state on drugs though. He was like that before the James Gang even, lol.

I have to say I like his album "But Seriously, Folks..." better than most of the Eagles stuff. It has a lightness and humour to it, and his stuff usually rocks harder also. Always liked the light country rock the Eagles did least. One issue with Walsh was that he didn't write enough og his own stuff. I think Henley can be a pretty good though songwriter though.

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One show I regret never seeing was "The Best", Crazy Joe, Keith Emerson, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, and John Entwistle.

Interesting, never knew these guys worked together. That supergroup mustn't have lasted long.

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BTW, a certain Doll here doubts my career details so he can pissoff on the rest of this post, but early on I was the enrolled actuary for Jeff Skunk Baxter (his corporation was named Disappearing, Inc., one of my favorites ever!),

Also for The Eagles (pre Joe Walsh I think, but not sure), Stevie Nicks, Meat Loaf (under his real name) and Im sure a few others Im forgetting. Never met a damn one of them though just their business managers! And if youre a Steely Dan fan I can tell you a funny story about Walter Becker on St. Patricks day 1975 :).

Sounds interesting! Would be cool if Becker was getting up to some Burroughs type drug excesses... Consider writing a book if there are some good stories to tell. :)




thishereboi -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:10:50 PM)

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Who are the rabid bigots, boi?


If you haven't spotted them by now, there is no point in me pointing them out. And no I am not defending his actions, but I am not surprised that you came to that conclusion.




tazzygirl -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:13:05 PM)

Then I suggest you include me into that group as well, boi.  I see nothing wrong with pointing out the irreprehensible actions of any elected official.




tazzygirl -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:19:11 PM)

Walsh admits he is not wealthy. Some of his financial problems — including losing his Evanston condo to foreclosure — were documented before his out-of-nowhere victory last fall in the 8th Congressional District in Chicago’s north and northwest suburbs.

But court documents examined this week by the Chicago Sun-Times during research for a profile on the increasingly visible congressman showed his financial issues also included a nine-year child support battle with his ex-wife.

 Before getting elected, he had told Laura Walsh that because he was out of work or between jobs, he could not make child support payments. So she was surprised to read in his congressional campaign disclosures that he was earning enough money to loan his campaign $35,000.

“Joe personally loaned his campaign $35,000, which, given that he failed to make any child support payments to Laura because he ‘had no money’ is surprising,” Laura Walsh’s attorneys wrote in a motion filed in December seeking $117,437 in back child support and interest. “Joe has paid himself back at least $14,200 for the loans he gave himself.”


Walsh’s attorneys responded in court filings: “Respondent admits that funds were loaned to his campaign fund. . . . Respondent admits that the campaign fund has repaid certain loans.”


He personally wrote in court filings that he thought he and his ex-wife were coming to an agreement on the money he owes. He noted that the children have lived with him for part of the last nine years.


Walsh lives with his new wife and children in McHenry. He has not paid any of the $117,437 yet, Laura Walsh’s attorney, Jack Coladarci, said Wednesday.


Took vacations


Joe and Laura Walsh had been married 15 years when she filed for divorce in December 2002. The thickness of the court file reflects Laura Walsh’s nine years of trying to collect child support and expenses from a man who crusades against compromise. Laura Walsh went to court repeatedly over the past nine years to get him to pay up, sometimes even asking the court to garnish his wages, court records show.


In 2004, Laura Walsh complained in a motion that despite her ex-husband’s claims of poverty, he took a vacation to Mexico with his girlfriend and another to Italy. The following year, he complained in a court filing that his ex-wife mailed him a motion while she knew he was in Nicaragua doing charitable work with one of their children.

In her December filing, Laura Walsh’s attorneys wrote, “The apparent availability of large sums of money from either his employment, his family or his campaign has allowed him to live quite a comfortable lifestyle, while at the same time, due to his failure to pay child support or any of his share of the education costs or medical expenses, Laura and his children were denied any of these advantages.”

After Joe Walsh missed payments, Cook County Judge Grace Dickler wrote in a 2005 order, “If Joe Walsh fails to tender [his 50 percent share of children’s expenses] to Laura within 7 days, ONE TIME, the court shall enter an automatic withdrawal . . . from Joe Walsh’s employer.”


In the most current controversy, Walsh has responded to his ex-wife’s plea for $117,000 by submitting an e-mail that he says shows she was willing in September to settle with him for about $10,000.


An e-mail from her that the congressman attached to a court motion showed Laura Walsh saying: “For almost 2½ years now I have been very patient about money you owe me for your share of the children’s expenses because I thought you were not working. Even last summer when I was out of work for a few months, I scraped to pay for medical and education-related expenses on my own.”


That e-mail dealt with child expenses above and beyond the child support debt.


Rep. Walsh responded with this e-mail to her: “Laura, I’m good with what you’re proposing.”

In prior years, court records show Walsh objecting to paying for expenses such as summer camp or a homecoming suit he never agreed to.

But, at least recently, he appears to be paying his share of the expenses, said Laura Walsh’s attorney, Coladarci, “because I haven’t been getting calls from my client saying he hasn’t.”


Work history


Laura Walsh is a non-practicing attorney who works for the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, according to the state of Illinois’ Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Committee.


As a sometimes-employed financial consultant/venture capitalist/Republican activist, Joe Walsh’s resume is difficult to characterize. His congressional disclosure statement says he earned $14,500 in 2009 from Advantage Futures and Michigan Avenue Ventures and $8,000 in self-employment.


In 2010, he was paid $21,000 by the United Republican Fund of Illinois. He also has worked as a teacher and an administrator of education trust funds. He now is paid $175,000 a year as a congressman.

When Coladarci called the congressional payroll office to have them enforce a court order withholding $2,164 from Walsh’s monthly check for child support, the payroll staffer “seemed surprised” and said “tsk, tsk, tsk,” Coladarci said.


Congress has withheld child support money from members’ paychecks over the years when ordered by a court, said Dan Weiser, a spokesman for the U.S. House of Representatives. He did not elaborate.


In 1994, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Illinois) owed $8,500 in child support.

http://www.suntimes.com/6720892-417/tea-party-rep.-joe-walsh-sued-for-100000-in-child-support

Do you need more?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/4/2011 5:45:13 PM)

"The Best" was only a few concerts in Asia, though I think there is a video of it. I'll have to check some torrent sites later.

I only have one Walter Becker story, far from enough to fill a book, but it being a St Patricks day tale with a bit of (illegal) kink, I thought you might like it lol. I'll PM it rather than continue the hijack.




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