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Hillwilliam -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 2:05:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


What color is the sky in your make believe world  [:D]




If you don't approve of the deadbeat dad congressman's actions say so and say he should resign.

Otherwise, I can only assume you approve of him.

You either approve of him or you don't. Which is it?




mnottertail -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 2:06:20 PM)

DODA.  Defense of Deadbeats Act. Coming to a political discussion near you..... 




Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 2:10:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


What color is the sky in your make believe world  [:D]



So you've debunked his assertion that you only support Republican deadbeats and are displaying a double standard when it comes to the morality of congress members how, exactly?




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 2:44:19 PM)

What really burns my ass, when a story like this comes out, is the parrot banter that pours out of both right and left. Whether it be this or Wiener's weener, politicians are scum. That is the plain and simple fact. We should condemn them even when we are unaware of their hypocracy or other crimes, because they are always guilty of doing something. You HAVE to be total piece of garbage to kiss that much ass to be elected to anything, let alone get through their respective party's back stabbing and incestuous alliances. I mean have you really ever met that prostitute with a heart of gold? When you are in the business of whoring yourself out for money, you will lie, cheat and steal to get what you want.

The simple fact is that we shouldn't boil a scandal like this down to politics. It isn't political, it is simply a story about an asshole who should be sued and have his drivers license taken away (refering to dead beat dad laws). Politicians are lying whores. You shouldn't defend them because they are from your party, nor should you condemn the ideology because of the actions of one individual. I have never met a Republican politician who was a moral person, nor have I met a Democtrat politician who was actually an intellectual.

We need to join as citizens, put our politics aside, and just condemn the evil for being evil! I understand this was published only to point out some form of political irony. The real irony is if this guy wasn't such a deficit/budget hawk, would we have even cared? Well, we should, only because this guy was doing a dick thing in the first place.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 4:20:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MileHighM

What really burns my ass, when a story like this comes out, is the parrot banter that pours out of both right and left. Whether it be this or Wiener's weener, politicians are scum. That is the plain and simple fact. We should condemn them even when we are unaware of their hypocracy or other crimes, because they are always guilty of doing something. You HAVE to be total piece of garbage to kiss that much ass to be elected to anything, let alone get through their respective party's back stabbing and incestuous alliances. I mean have you really ever met that prostitute with a heart of gold? When you are in the business of whoring yourself out for money, you will lie, cheat and steal to get what you want.

The simple fact is that we shouldn't boil a scandal like this down to politics. It isn't political, it is simply a story about an asshole who should be sued and have his drivers license taken away (refering to dead beat dad laws). Politicians are lying whores. You shouldn't defend them because they are from your party, nor should you condemn the ideology because of the actions of one individual. I have never met a Republican politician who was a moral person, nor have I met a Democtrat politician who was actually an intellectual.

We need to join as citizens, put our politics aside, and just condemn the evil for being evil! I understand this was published only to point out some form of political irony. The real irony is if this guy wasn't such a deficit/budget hawk, would we have even cared? Well, we should, only because this guy was doing a dick thing in the first place.


With this outlook on life perhaps youd be better off 8 miles high.




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 4:28:06 PM)

Again, rml...

Monicagate had very little to do with Monica Lewinsky

But you cant admit that, can you

Not even to yourself.

Hillwilliam wrote that "We need to hold politicians to a higher standard"

Yet, mention Bill Clinton and the rape / sexual harassment allegations against him in that context and he blows a freakin gasket... 

Tell you what hill, you go first

If you don't approve of Bill Clintons (alleged) rapes and his otherwise (proven) forcing himself onto an unwilling female victim then say so, and say he should have resigned.

Otherwise, I can only assume you approve of his jackassery.

You either approve of him or you don't. Which is it? [;)]

Theres only one purpose behind this thread, and thats to try to tie all Tea Partiers in with deadbeat dads

No one likes a deadbeat dad, I revile them almost as much as I do rapists and other such lowly fiends

But there are leftist deadbeats, female deadbeats, there are all kinds

As there are right wing rapists, left wing rapists etc etc etc

I dont judge all Dems based on the actions of Bill Clinton though

Even if it would be nice to see more leftists man up and condemn him

In short, this thread is a sad and pathetic comment on the small person who started it, and its a sad and pathetic comment on those small leftists who then piled on


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


When leftists say we need to hold politicians to a higher standard, odds are good that they dont mean their own politicians

Poll a thousand leftists and see how many of them are willing to admit that "Monicagate" actually stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton, and the fact that he was convicted of perjuring himself during he proceedings



Well let's see what Monica has to say:


Lewinsky Tells Her Story - The Canadian Encyclopedia


In the interview and in Monica's Story, the tell-all book by British biographer Andrew Morton, Lewinsky finally stepped out on her own - free for the first time to shape her story without most of the strictures imposed by a legal investigation. After being subjected to so much political spin, she was able to do her own spinning, portraying herself as a free-spirited but well-meaning young woman who found herself both in love with the President of the United States and being used by his enemies as a "pawn" against him. She made a point of apologizing to Hillary Clinton and daughter Chelsea "for what they've been through." And in a culture where fame and infamy often seem indistinguishable, she was able to use her metaphorical 15 minutes to start generating some serious money - at least $7.5 million from her book advance, magazine deals and interview fees in Europe.


There were few revelations - not surprising for a relationship already exhaustively documented by squads of investigators. Lewinsky, still only 25, did reveal more about her taste for older men. She told Morton that in 1996, while she was involved with Clinton, she had an affair with a co-worker at the Pentagon, a man she identified only as "Thomas." Morton, best known as the conduit for the late Diana, Princess of Wales's account of her failed marriage to Prince Charles in his best-seller Diana: Her True Story, writes that Lewinsky became pregnant and had an abortion. That upset her so much that she sought therapy, and came to understand that she took up with married men because she lacked self-respect. "What I've come to see is that that happened because I didn't have enough feelings of self-worth," she told Walters. "So that I didn't feel that I was worthy of being No. 1 to a man."





flcouple2009 -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 4:47:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
In short, this thread is a sad and pathetic comment on the small person who started it, and its a sad and pathetic comment on those small leftists who then piled on


Yes it is a sad comment on you.  You just can't say fuck him, if he can't conduct himself any better than that he should not be in congress.

Funny,  it was said about Weiner dummy and about the duck suit dumb ass.

Now it's your turn.  Quit trying to talk circles and be a man.




domiguy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 4:58:47 PM)

why argue with wilbur? everything that he says is a fucking lie.



quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

And we need two threads on this, why? The best part of the story is that joke of a network MSNBC has banned him from their broadcasts. Ooooooh the ignominy.


I read that it was just one guy that banned him from his show?





He never admits wrong doing or apologizes for the depth of his asshattery. I can only imagine all of the "baby girls" lining up to jump the bones of such a dumb and pathetic Daddy.




domiguy -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 5:10:50 PM)

WTF? Honest to fucking God, can you on the right not see that hypocrisy of this fuck?

A man so concerned about fiscal responsibility, my ass.

in a video speech lecturing President Obama on fiscal responsibility, “I won’t place one more dollar of debt upon the backs of my kids and grandkids unless we structurally reform the way this town spends money!”

all of you right wing hypocrites are pathetic. He is cut from the same fucking cloth as every other hypocrite which ever side of the aisle they may sit.

It is just all the sweeter when these right wing fucks shout at the top of their lungs about the sins of homosexuality or removing debt, but are up to their necks in it.

Assholes.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 5:55:36 PM)

When a "man" can not,or does not,live up to the responsibilities of fatherhood,nay embrace the responsibilities of fatherhood....he fails at that which marks his manhood.Political affiliation notwithstanding .The only mark any of us are likely to leave on this world are our children...Any man who does not take an active role in raising his children loses the right to call himself a man...and I don't give a shit what his politics are or aren't .
Only a complete and utter partisan fool somehow misses that...and finds a swarmy way to avoid coming right out and slamming this fool....by the way how are things going sanity [:)]




rulemylife -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/1/2011 10:27:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MileHighM


The simple fact is that we shouldn't boil a scandal like this down to politics. It isn't political, it is simply a story about an asshole who should be sued and have his drivers license taken away (refering to dead beat dad laws). Politicians are lying whores.


Uhh....didn't you just boil it down to politics?




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 7:59:20 AM)

No I didn't boil it down to politics, and how was my original statement a bad outlook on life (one I need to be high for)? Once someone takes on a hard-core political ideology (left or right) they cease to act rationally and defend their side to the death, even if they are wrong. I am a pragmatist. There is no doctrine that satisfies the needs of all. Would all christians be served well by only catholisism? Or, every muslim by suni? NO..... Diversity of opinion is the basis for intellectual debate. Human thought is flawed and never perfect. No one set of ideas is ever right. They must be argued debated and challenged.

What I am saying is what this guy did had nothing to do with his politics, it has to do with his character. The character of politicians, in general, is that of a rat (wait that is insulting to rats, oh well). So, we should look outside of this person's politics and at him for what he is personally. And, this isn't some half-empty look on life. I believe in self empowerment. If we all follow these political movements and parties like sheep, we become their lap dogs and slaves. Grow an independant brain and make them work for your votes, they might just stop fucking you in the ass left and right (like Bush on his spending and Obama and his ties to the oligarchy).

I know I struck a nerve when I have leftists and righties after me. It is actually quite satisfying to get two sets of ideas who hate each other to agree on something :)




Hillwilliam -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 8:04:25 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Again, rml...

Monicagate had very little to do with Monica Lewinsky

But you cant admit that, can you

Not even to yourself.

Hillwilliam wrote that "We need to hold politicians to a higher standard"

Yet, mention Bill Clinton and the rape / sexual harassment allegations against him in that context and he blows a freakin gasket... 

Tell you what hill, you go first

If you don't approve of Bill Clintons (alleged) rapes and his otherwise (proven) forcing himself onto an unwilling female victim then say so, and say he should have resigned.

Otherwise, I can only assume you approve of his jackassery.

You either approve of him or you don't. Which is it? [;)]

Theres only one purpose behind this thread, and thats to try to tie all Tea Partiers in with deadbeat dads

No one likes a deadbeat dad, I revile them almost as much as I do rapists and other such lowly fiends

But there are leftist deadbeats, female deadbeats, there are all kinds

As there are right wing rapists, left wing rapists etc etc etc

I dont judge all Dems based on the actions of Bill Clinton though

Even if it would be nice to see more leftists man up and condemn him

In short, this thread is a sad and pathetic comment on the small person who started it, and its a sad and pathetic comment on those small leftists who then piled on


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


When leftists say we need to hold politicians to a higher standard, odds are good that they dont mean their own politicians

Poll a thousand leftists and see how many of them are willing to admit that "Monicagate" actually stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton, and the fact that he was convicted of perjuring himself during he proceedings



Well let's see what Monica has to say:


Lewinsky Tells Her Story - The Canadian Encyclopedia


In the interview and in Monica's Story, the tell-all book by British biographer Andrew Morton, Lewinsky finally stepped out on her own - free for the first time to shape her story without most of the strictures imposed by a legal investigation. After being subjected to so much political spin, she was able to do her own spinning, portraying herself as a free-spirited but well-meaning young woman who found herself both in love with the President of the United States and being used by his enemies as a "pawn" against him. She made a point of apologizing to Hillary Clinton and daughter Chelsea "for what they've been through." And in a culture where fame and infamy often seem indistinguishable, she was able to use her metaphorical 15 minutes to start generating some serious money - at least $7.5 million from her book advance, magazine deals and interview fees in Europe.


There were few revelations - not surprising for a relationship already exhaustively documented by squads of investigators. Lewinsky, still only 25, did reveal more about her taste for older men. She told Morton that in 1996, while she was involved with Clinton, she had an affair with a co-worker at the Pentagon, a man she identified only as "Thomas." Morton, best known as the conduit for the late Diana, Princess of Wales's account of her failed marriage to Prince Charles in his best-seller Diana: Her True Story, writes that Lewinsky became pregnant and had an abortion. That upset her so much that she sought therapy, and came to understand that she took up with married men because she lacked self-respect. "What I've come to see is that that happened because I didn't have enough feelings of self-worth," she told Walters. "So that I didn't feel that I was worthy of being No. 1 to a man."



I'm gonna call you on a bald faced lie Sanity. I have NEVER defended Clinton re: monicagate.

You claim the purpose of this thread is to tie all tea partiers to dead beat dads. Im gonna call you on another lie. It was meant to show ONE congressman as a dead beat.

You still refuse to answer my question. You claim to revile deadbeat dads and yet you defend this guy.

Which is it?

Answer my question instead of dissembling, lying and strawmanning.




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 8:13:33 AM)


Flew right over your head, didnt it... [:D]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 8:39:56 AM)

No it didn't. I just refuse to fall for your lies and dissembling.

Have you no shame when someone proves you to be a liar or are you just used to it?




Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 9:39:05 AM)

If he wasn't used to it, he wouldn't still be posting here, would he?




flcouple2009 -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 9:43:35 AM)

He has no shame




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 1:16:50 PM)

I figure both are reasonable assumptions....




Lucylastic -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 1:31:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MileHighM

What really burns my ass, when a story like this comes out, is the parrot banter that pours out of both right and left. Whether it be this or Wiener's weener, politicians are scum. That is the plain and simple fact. We should condemn them even when we are unaware of their hypocracy or other crimes, because they are always guilty of doing something. You HAVE to be total piece of garbage to kiss that much ass to be elected to anything, let alone get through their respective party's back stabbing and incestuous alliances. I mean have you really ever met that prostitute with a heart of gold? When you are in the business of whoring yourself out for money, you will lie, cheat and steal to get what you want.

The simple fact is that we shouldn't boil a scandal like this down to politics. It isn't political, it is simply a story about an asshole who should be sued and have his drivers license taken away (refering to dead beat dad laws). Politicians are lying whores. You shouldn't defend them because they are from your party, nor should you condemn the ideology because of the actions of one individual. I have never met a Republican politician who was a moral person, nor have I met a Democtrat politician who was actually an intellectual.

We need to join as citizens, put our politics aside, and just condemn the evil for being evil! I understand this was published only to point out some form of political irony. The real irony is if this guy wasn't such a deficit/budget hawk, would we have even cared? Well, we should, only because this guy was doing a dick thing in the first place.




You just added to the worst of the forum, slagging off everyone pretending to be above it all
well congrats you are just as bad as any of us
welcome to the board




MileHighM -> RE: Tea Party deficit hawk won't pay his child support (8/2/2011 2:01:55 PM)

I, by far, don't think I am above it all. I see so much fighting over the minutia of politics that has nothing to do with the real issues. The imbedded power structure in this country are all cronies, for the most part, even if they have different political affiliation. The want us fighting over the crappy details so we all miss the big picture.

I don't want to be above it. I want us all to see past the political smoke screens and hold these people accountable for what they do outside of the lens of personal political loyalties.




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