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RE: Roof Advice - 5/1/2011 1:26:02 PM

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^ actually this is comical. They sell houses here in my area where nothing is turned on- completely as is. If you want to learn if something works you have to put the utilities on your name- pay the connect and then disconnect.

Actually, hunky, I (as a broker) usually pay for that.

All the utility depts around here know Me well enough till I can get stuff turned on with a phone call. No signature or anything and they just bill me.

PA is a whole other world in houses. I had to pay and arrange it all myself when I bought this house. The realtor did not even have a key... so I .....

But I wont bash my realtor- I did not sign one of those exotic mortgages... she knew that much and I will use her again when it is time.

She knew how to get things done - and navigate- she earned her commission. My point is I had to sink a few thousand in up front.... at take the chance.... some homes are done that way here.

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RE: Roof Advice - 5/1/2011 1:33:03 PM

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It has always been the norm that two layers of shingles is ok ( never 3, to much weight ). Things have changed. Most manufacturers will not guarantee their product unless the all layers are removed. I would have all layers removed and do the job right.

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RE: Roof Advice - 5/1/2011 2:10:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

^ actually this is comical. They sell houses here in my area where nothing is turned on- completely as is. If you want to learn if something works you have to put the utilities on your name- pay the connect and then disconnect.

Actually, hunky, I (as a broker) usually pay for that.

All the utility depts around here know Me well enough till I can get stuff turned on with a phone call. No signature or anything and they just bill me.

PA is a whole other world in houses. I had to pay and arrange it all myself when I bought this house. The realtor did not even have a key... so I .....

But I wont bash my realtor- I did not sign one of those exotic mortgages... she knew that much and I will use her again when it is time.

She knew how to get things done - and navigate- she earned her commission. My point is I had to sink a few thousand in up front.... at take the chance.... some homes are done that way here.

You just didn't have high enough expectations hunky. It's part of the cost of Me doing business. Same thing when I sold property in miami in the mid 90's. Agents have a lot of expenses like that. If a buyer is willing, I'm not gonna tell em no but it rarely happens that way.

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RE: Roof Advice - 5/1/2011 4:04:36 PM

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In general, it is, from a financial standpoint, to spend more than a couple thousand unless it will bring a return on your investment such as a kitchen or bathroom upgrade. If you are going to spend 5-10K on general stuff just to get a quick sale, you are either an idiot or have money to burn.

Likewise if you think you need to drop your price 50 grand if you don't replace the carpet. It's at most a thousand dollar credit to the buyer.

You entirely missed my point LL. A house that does not look fresh and newly done appears to most people to require much more work than it actually does. Most people won't know that just a couple of weeks and a couple of thousand of dollars would allow them to update quickly. Most people don't know anything about what's required to repair or update a place. If they did, then staging a house would not be necessary.

A house that appears old and out of date will be assumed by most people to require a great deal more to update than is necessary. Just a good scrubbing of kitchen cabinets and new knobs will make the kitchen appear much younger and therefore sell easier. But most people don't have five or ten thousand to put into a place right after moving in and they don't want to live there for two years until they can afford to update it.

And although you might not recover all of the costs, if by doing some updating you can sell the house instead of needing to wait another year to sell, most sellers would think it more than worth it. We're not talking getting $25K more on your house than it's worth, we're talking about it selling or not. A roof torn up by a hailstorm will be avoided by most buyers. It really is that simple.

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RE: Roof Advice - 5/1/2011 5:31:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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^ actually this is comical. They sell houses here in my area where nothing is turned on- completely as is. If you want to learn if something works you have to put the utilities on your name- pay the connect and then disconnect.

Actually, hunky, I (as a broker) usually pay for that.

All the utility depts around here know Me well enough till I can get stuff turned on with a phone call. No signature or anything and they just bill me.

PA is a whole other world in houses. I had to pay and arrange it all myself when I bought this house. The realtor did not even have a key... so I .....

But I wont bash my realtor- I did not sign one of those exotic mortgages... she knew that much and I will use her again when it is time.

She knew how to get things done - and navigate- she earned her commission. My point is I had to sink a few thousand in up front.... at take the chance.... some homes are done that way here.

You just didn't have high enough expectations hunky. It's part of the cost of Me doing business. Same thing when I sold property in miami in the mid 90's. Agents have a lot of expenses like that. If a buyer is willing, I'm not gonna tell em no but it rarely happens that way.

I clawed my way like an SOB- it was buy something yesterday or camp out on friends couches.

Really and truly her advice and effort made the difference. I wont be one of those foreclosure victims.

...and my payment is alot lower then rent. So yay for doing something right.

:-)

I was more of a go getter then. I ran out of steam these days- and luckily I am settled in... so yay for that.

The gal is established in the area.... this is where the OPs post confuses me. Her gal sounds like a player.

PS- 5 other families wanted the same house.

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