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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 2:39:03 AM   
Termyn8or


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"Matter of fact, you do not address the issue at all! If you are a diabetic you do need insulin,"

Lady C, here are some facts. You mention diabetes, OK, we go with that. If you do not absorb and metabolise the ELEMENTS chromium and vanadium in sufficient quantaties you will become diabetic. Thos two ELEMENTS are part of the process that produces insulin in our bodies which is instrumental to utilizing sugar. This is fact. (it is not the sole cause of diabetes though)

If, for any reason your body does not metabolize enough calcium, which requires certain other ELEMENTS you will have bone or teeth problems. Tooth decay is a form of osteoporosis. It's not just calcium, that calcium needs to combine with a few other things, manganese, phosphorous, potassium, whatever. If those companion minerals are missing you get stones from the unused calcium blocking up your gall bladder or bladder or kidneys, whatevewr.

If you are not metabolizing and using enough sulfur you will be prone to gall bladder problems. If your body runs low on tin and I think zinc is involved, you get hard of hearing and your hair turns white. If you don't get enough zinc, or selenium I think, you will be prone to ulcers.

You mentioned broken bones. I have had very few. Fingers and ribs, that's it. It took some doing to break ribs, but I broke my fingers punching. So I was a dumbass. But I've been kicked hard enough to propel me over 15 feet across a room and come back for more. I have been shot (wrecked my weekend). Aging (50 now) has taught me a few things. And it is all supported by facts.

And all the things they tell you are not curable, fukum. Ever hear of gestational diabetes ? How come it cures itself ? They say diabetes is incurable yet it cures itself. How the fuck can you believe them, those who make more money the sicker you get ? The problem here is if you have had it for awhile, your pancreas is dead, but if caught in early stages it can usually be managed with diet, absent any malabsorption problems, which may be inherited. But then when you inherit you also inherit a diet. That is a huge factor.

About 85% of my whole theory on the subject is based on logic derived from facts, many of those facts are common knowledger or easily verifiable.

T

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 2:58:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Maybe she needs another specialist or step out of the conventional Western medicine? I can say a Chinese doctor helped lots and I was more than skeptic about it, the difference he and a properly trained homeopath made, incredible!
Yep, the less training one has in science and logic, the better homeopathic shit works! Snorting bufotenine (Divine toad sweat) is particularly efficacious. I know this because I diagnose myself all the time, and I'm always right!


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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 4:15:30 AM   
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With me weight is not the issue.  I am not obese. I fluxuate tho.   My cholesterol and so forth is all very good.  This baffled a friend of mine- as I eat 3 eggs a day.... red meat...   I do tho avoid white flour, HFCS.

I am 47. 

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 11:02:10 AM   
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Cholesterol is another one Hunky. The reason some people can eat a dozen eggs and a pound of butter a day and not have a problem is that their body can use it properly and/or excrete the excess. Those who can't will have problems. Even what I say about table salt, there are people to which it simply does not apply. For whatever reason, they seem to just piss the poison out.

When I first started looking into this I never imagined the subject could be so complex, but now I know why there is not all that much research devoted to it. The problem is that it's not just greed, it is practically impossible to solve the problem. Even organic farming doesn't fix it. Not that it can't be fixed, but if it is you'll be paying $10 for a loaf of bread, about twice that for a pound of ground meat, maybe a buck per ear of corn. Colloidal supplements do not work for everyone, and nothing works if the deficiency lasts too long in most cases.

Another big hinderance to gaining the proper data is a privacy issue. If someone could correlate the incidence of deficiency diseases (once recognized as such) with the diet of every person on the planet as well as hereditary factors it would further our understanding quite effectively. But data simply are not available. Imagine six billion people writing down and reporting everything they have ingested into their body from birth and accurately reporting the origin of every piece of food or whatever they eat or drink or even inhale or comes into contact with their skin. Then all this data would have to be sent to a centralized database and compared to geographical and geological maps, something like that, to determine why people get these diseases. Just the thought of it makes big brother look like nothing in comparison. That is one hell of alot of data, and how can you be sure that it is accurate ?

Then there is the post hoc ergo propter hoc factor. For example, on my ORIGINAL birth certificate, the one without the bar code, there is a check mark. It said "Was opthalmic prophylactic applied ?". OK, it sounds like something they used to put in the infant's eyes to prevent infection. At least in English it seems logical. But what exactly was in that stuff ?

Now comes the cool part. They apply that stuff to the eyes, but that in no way means it only affects the eyes. Ever hear of windowpane ? It's one form of LSD that is taken by putting a small piece of clear stuff in your eye. Somehow it gets to the brain and you go on an acid trip. And then there are nitroglycerin and nicotine patches that just go on the skin. There is a school of thought that if you won't eat it you shouldn't touch it.

And some people take salt baths. Some swin in the ocean. If those things are benficial how ? How did you feel afterwards ?

That's the problem, we would need that type of detailed data from a fairly large segment of the world's population. Fat chance when people have trouble balancing a checkbook or finding their car titles. Early in life is also important, so then who is to keep the records for the young who cannot yet read or write ?

What's more, the supposed leaders in the field also seem to discount the interaction between the mind and the body. I believe this to be the reason for the profileration of many drugs That is another subject though.

T

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 4:52:54 PM   
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Term,

I am the guy that lipitor began to fry my liver.  (tho my liver is fine)   We caught it before it was a problem.

So  I had cholesterol bad enough to get rx then-  now- my readings could not be any better.   But the thyroid is messed up.  I understand I have to give the med some time.



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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 5:48:11 PM   
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Does anyone get the impression that we as believing consumers are nothing but guinea pigs for the pharma companies ?

I say this as the meds I am on though licensed for use on humans, that is not to say they are good for humans and various authorities have already declared give it a few years and the stuff will be banned as detrimental  to health, once it is found it causes more ills than it cures.

We are all guinea pigs to prove a chemical concoction works or not, but whilst the trial is going on, the pharma companies get paid in full, so much faith we have in the belief they care for our well being.


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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/21/2010 9:27:20 PM   
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No An, guinea pigs are taken care of quite well. In fact the best fed animal in the world is a lab rat. They don't want any deficiencies in them when they make them smoke 100 cigarettes a day. That diet, which is standardized and everything is a matter of public knowledge, and is what gives the research done by the rat's lab validity.

They basically want to know for a fact that they are causing the disease, not some random factor. As such it is the absolutely most perfect diet for that animal that modern science can come up with. Why don't they do that for us ?

T

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