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foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/14/2010 5:14:07 PM   
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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/14/2010 6:39:16 PM   
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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/14/2010 8:32:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		There better be some iodine in this sea salt.

To those who care - I wouldn't count on iodized table salt as I have doubts as to whether the iodine is properly metabolized. I'm still looking for some answers on that. However many people have cut down on table salt which means of course it doesn't matter to them. Not enough iodine, possibly.

Assuming even that it is used by the body, stop to think just why they put it in there. First guess, a widespread deficiency. Whoever came up with the idea must've based it on something. Some may say it has something to do with the cold war, as nukes attack the iodine in the thyroid gland. I don't think the salt will do it, the idea of iodine tablets for radiation sickness is to flood the system with iodine, replacing the bad iodine already there with fresh unaffected iodine.

I read somewhere in my little database that certain foods inhibit the absorption of iodine by the body, among them brocolli (!).

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/15/2010 4:03:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Sea Salt" just means it is refined from evaporated seawater instead of mined from prehistorical salt deposits. All HAVE to be refined to remove the impurities.

If you just evaporate seawater and use the salt on your food, you will make yourself quite sick from a mineral imbalance; way too much potassium. That is why drinking seawater for days at a time will give hallucinations and lead to death.

Test your iodine level by painting a line of iodine on the forearm and see how long it takes the body to absorb it. If it takes two days or more to go away completely, you are fine.

Two drops of tincture of iodine in a glass of milk will give you more than enough iodine for a week. And, yes, it should be calcium bearing animal milk and not soy milk. Not just someting to make the iodine drinkable but a chemical reaction that allows for easy body uptake.

If you don't drink milk, paint iodine on a hidden spot and let it absorb through the skin.

The remedy for iodine poisoning, or just too much iodine, is to flood the system with calcium ions. Drink milk or take a ton of Tums.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/15/2010 7:55:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK, I never thought about absorbing it through the skin. Probably a good way to get it rather than table salt.

But those "imputities" are actually what is supposed to be there. Using unrefined salt is not going to flood the body with anything like exclusively drinking seawater would. Potassium is a nutrient of course but like most others there is a toxicity level. More valuable in unrefined salt are the other minerals, essential but in much smaller amounts. In the US 24 minerals are deemed essential to life, and if you look around you'll find a strong correlation between mineral deficiencies and quite a few diseases.

Even if it is unknown whether the deficiency or the disease came first shouldn't be considered all that relevant, because if you're sick you still need the essential nutrients. Does it matter if the disease is caused or exaserbated by deficiencies ?

Information about minerals is largely ignored in the US, and this is not the thread in which to discuss the reasons. What we have here is not health care, but managed sickness.

In the past, people did not refine salt, and there's a damn good reason it was a commodity treated like money which is the basis of the word salary. To say it was toxic would not be logical. Dead people don't reproduce - therefore we wouldn't be here.

That is not to say that every part of the ocean(s) yields the optimum salt. Of course it varies in price, but that is generally based on flavor, not mineral content.

Nothing is a cureall, and that includes even the best salt money can buy, but there is a reason people pay for it. It's always better to find food sources but the soil in which they grow the produce is so poor that you can't count on the mineral content of anything. Commercial farming is a significant factor in creating this problem.

The government has known about this for decades. I'm not going into conspiracy theories here, because there is nothing they can do about it. Yes it makes some people rich, but the only solution is better land management and more complete fertilization of the crops, which would make most foods prohibitively expensive.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/15/2010 8:18:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wish I knew more about this and related.  I got 2 books from the library.  When the thyroid is off the whole body is bad...  it is hard to explain.   Then getting the medication right is a challenge.  

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/15/2010 9:48:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not all table salt sold is iodized. If it doesn't say so, it isn't.

I'd rather eat shrimp than dulse any day.


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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/15/2010 9:19:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Then getting the medication right is a challenge. "

That's because they try to light a cigarette with a potato peeler. Effective nutrition has been known for so long it is surprising how much has been forgotten. What is more ironic is that the progenitors are obviously the ones who survived, which would indicate that they were the ones who knew how to survive. Obviously the teaching of the young by the old got interrupted somewhere.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/16/2010 4:59:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Term,

we recently found that my thyroid is bad.   So now on a med for that.   The first week was great-  then it fizzled.    That pill is small and like a crumb from a cake...  and one of the most dangerous pills that I know of.   Too much can set a person off.   Too little wont work.  Timing is important- it must be in the AM.
In the past 6 months I been very sensitive to temperatures.

Reading up on it- the T4 is -  tried and true- but T3 pills are not- this due to there has not been a double blind study.  (yet)   But it is very heated with in that community.   The half lifes are different the T4, and T3... and for this condition some have a pharmacy mix up a potion based on blood readings.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 12:52:36 PM   
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The most sensitive toxic endpoint of BFRs is thyroid function. Here’s how:

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 12:59:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Then getting the medication right is a challenge. "

That's because they try to light a cigarette with a potato peeler. Effective nutrition has been known for so long it is surprising how much has been forgotten. What is more ironic is that the progenitors are obviously the ones who survived, which would indicate that they were the ones who knew how to survive. Obviously the teaching of the young by the old got interrupted somewhere.

T


Effective nutrition doesn't help when your thyroid isn't working, then you do need medication and the problem is that not everybody reacts the same way or can absorb the medication the same way, getting it right is in fact a challenge and has to be done slowly, nothing to do with nutrition.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:30:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Effective nutrition, or Anything only works when the system works. That's why it is so important to understand the "mineral signature" each of us required to remain healthy. Because of my past illness I did shutup about the subject, but now that has changed. I believe that what almost killed me would've killed most people. I did not generate this theory, those around me did, and it is substantiated by other facts, actually problems I DON'T have.

You want a quote - quote me. I assert that near half of diseases humans suffer are caused by mineral deficiencies. After over a decade of research I find the subject is a bit more complex than I had imagined. These basic, irreplacable and essential elements work together. For example the calcified deposits that give trouble to some organs is not there because there is too much calcium in the system, it is because there is a deficiency of those other nutrients the calcium need, with which to combine and do what it is supposd to do. That is only one example.

Part of the biigger picture is one of the major problems with society theses days. Specialization. Try to find a GP lately ? They prcticallyu don't exist. I remember as a kid a doctor near Grandma's house had his office at home. Of course he had to book time at the local hospital for surgeries, but his office was within walking distance, and I mean without crossing any major roads. Literally if someone fell down, the other kids could throw the carcass in a little red wagon and drag him down there.

The information on this is vast, and you have to know what to look for. I've got about 12 years into it. Even though I got ill last year or so, I stand by what I've discovered and my conclusions. I also know now what age does, and there are other complications. Malabsorption is afoot, and I've also discovered that some people seem to be allergic to certain minerals. Really, a few times people tell me what all they are allergic to, and I find all on the list have something in common, and the deficiency of that something is related to certain diseases in one way or another.

I found the subject fascinating and, I suspect useful. Others don't seem to share interest. That's OK, they'll be interested when their hair and teeth start falling out.

YES - I am asserting that miunerals and what we call againg are closely related. I have proof for those who wish to know, my own proof, not a link. Just some simple and well known facts that are easy to verify, that when put together a certain way reek of proof. I don't believe everything, but a bunch of it has to be true.

Enough for now

T

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:39:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matter of fact, you do not address the issue at all! If you are a diabetic you do need insulin, you do, no amount of minerals can help, you do need what your body can't produce itself, no matter how good and effective your nutrition is.

Nutrition is a big problem and a lot of people do eat wrong, but there are problems that have fuck all to do with nutrition, I mean would you tell somebody who has broken a leg that it's all to do with nutrition or would you address the problem - the broken bone? Sometimes our bodies don't work as they should, not even with the best nutrition, we aren't engines and sometimes medication is required.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:39:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		A friend has thyroid problems and I suggested she looked into coconut oil as it is supposed to regulate the thyroid, but searching for the info I passed to my friend, I found this page;

http://www.dotcomwomen.com/fitness/women/thyroid-foods.shtml

It may be of help or not.

But salt, I do not put it in food and only put it on egg when I eat egg, for if food has salt in it, I can taste it and because of it I end up feeling a insatiable thirst that it seems only milk quells.


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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:49:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had that info too and talked to somebody who specializes in it, the problem is that coconut oil is mainly saturated fats which will sort of backfire, while fresh coconut doesn't seem to cause a problem and actually helps, once it's turned into oil the negatives outweight the positives by far.

Depending on what the problem is, she might be a lot better off with kelp, but before she starts munching kelp it's a lot better to talk to an endocrinologist who specializes in thyroid.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:53:48 PM   
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Hey Term,

we recently found that my thyroid is bad.   So now on a med for that.   The first week was great-  then it fizzled.    That pill is small and like a crumb from a cake...  and one of the most dangerous pills that I know of.   Too much can set a person off.   Too little wont work.  Timing is important- it must be in the AM.
In the past 6 months I been very sensitive to temperatures.

Reading up on it- the T4 is -  tried and true- but T3 pills are not- this due to there has not been a double blind study.  (yet)   But it is very heated with in that community.   The half lifes are different the T4, and T3... and for this condition some have a pharmacy mix up a potion based on blood readings.



PA,

It can take quite some time to get the right dose and your levels normalised.

It takes time for the levels to build back up.

Meanwhile, do all the normal selfcare things such as excercize when you are able, eating a balanced diet and since you live where you do, the next time you are at the Dr's get him to run a vit D level on you. It's not just a woman's thing.

Obsessing isn't going to do any good and can wear you down.


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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 3:59:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		My friend's thyroid problem is not the underactive sort as she has no problems with weight at all and quite frankly she looks very good for age 57, an excellent figure. The problem she has causes mood and energy shifts and she says she picked up the problem when she had her last heart attack.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 4:05:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		An underactive thyroid is not always manifested in weight gain, but the heart attack tends to point towards a hyperactive thyroid, but only a specialist can give a real answer, all we do here is speculation.

All thyroid conditions cause mood swings and energy shifts, best thing you can do for her is to get her to a specialist, there are plenty of health problems that mimic thyroid problems but have a different cause.

Without being impolite, the age of your friend might have something to do with it, often thyroid problems arise after hormone changes, for example puberty, pregnancy or menopause, so it might make sense to get a hormone level in general and then have a thyroid test.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 4:41:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah she has various medication from a specialist in such matters but is herself always looking for a better option as the meds add to the mess, the side effects are no joy and from her just as bad as the initial complaint  but in other ways.

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RE: foods-that-benefit-your-thyroid - 11/20/2010 4:51:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe she needs another specialist or step out of the conventional Western medicine? I can say a Chinese doctor helped lots and I was more than skeptic about it, the difference he and a properly trained homeopath made, incredible!

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