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Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 2:43:56 PM   
Firebirdseeking


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Status: offline 		This is a bit of a rant, I'll put that right up front.  Every article I have read about him, every piece of news, seems to have a not of "feeling sorry for Mel", oh, he has a drinking problem, or he's bi polar; or, now most recently, salon.com is talking about his self hatred.  Excuse me?  He is racist, anti-Semitic and a woman hater/abuser, to me.  I was wondering if anyone else is sharing my perception that the media is trying to kind of get him off the hook for his despicable behavior.
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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 2:46:50 PM   
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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 2:58:06 PM   
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why is his divorce any of my business?






Actually, the woman he is getting divorced from submitted an affidavit that he never abused her and is a great father....

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 3:02:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somebody needs to go after his taste in women, that's for sure. The bitch put a tape recorder on him. What the fuck is up with that?

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 3:05:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Julia,  I tend to think the guy is being pounded-

If an artist puts out good work- people will fund it.    If he is truly creative with his films- .... I dont care what my dentist or hair dresser thinks- but i do care about then doing their job well.

I dont know enough about his racist rants....     but I do tend to think Hollywood likes to build people up and tear them down.

I cant really even think of any films he did....

Oh well.      The press will be a media circus...  people seem to like that.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 3:10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		He is a racist. I have not went to anything he put out since Braveheart, but at the same time just because you are a racist douche does not make you a child/wife abuser. He was married to the same woman for 30 years, and even though they are still ironing out her share of the estate, she stands behind him... She made no such vouchers about the racist shit he spewed...

I prefer to wait until the authorities go over the recordings, decide whether or not they have been tampered with, etc. She released these things to the press, which makes her a complete and total rat... take your domestic shit and work it out behind closed doors and don't destroy your daughter's father.... her daughter is the one that pays for her shit...

This kid doesn't have a chance

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 3:14:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		-- a lover recording things- seems- extreme.

People break up all the time.  Some manage to air the laundry for everyone to see.

Whenever there is a break up- I try not to get influenced by the he said- she said part.

a vengeful ex- is bad news.   I am glad it did not happen to me.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 3:24:03 PM   
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He is a racist. I have not went to anything he put out since Braveheart, but at the same time just because you are a racist douche does not make you a child/wife abuser. He was married to the same woman for 30 years, and even though they are still ironing out her share of the estate, she stands behind him... She made no such vouchers about the racist shit he spewed...

I prefer to wait until the authorities go over the recordings, decide whether or not they have been tampered with, etc. She released these things to the press, which makes her a complete and total rat... take your domestic shit and work it out behind closed doors and don't destroy your daughter's father.... her daughter is the one that pays for her shit...

This kid doesn't have a chance


I will say that regarding his estranged wife... while she may be telling the truth it is probably in her best financial interest to stand by him.

It will be very interesting to see what happens once the tapes are processed by a crime lab.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:08:08 PM   
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I will say that regarding his estranged wife... while she may be telling the truth it is probably in her best financial interest to stand by him.

It will be very interesting to see what happens once the tapes are processed by a crime lab.


It's also very possible that he hit his girlfriend but not his wife. Guys tend to look at their long term wife differently than they see the hot young girl they knocked up.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:12:45 PM   
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hot young girl they knocked up.


She is 40, she is neither a girl nor is she young.... just sayin'

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:18:02 PM   
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hot young girl they knocked up.


She is 40, she is neither a girl nor is she young.... just sayin'


Meh, Mel's 54.

The point still stands, that a guy might treat his wife differently from his girlfriend who got pregnant out of wedlock.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:22:30 PM   
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Meh, Mel's 54.

The point still stands, that a guy might treat his wife differently from his girlfriend who got pregnant out of wedlock.


That is possible...

I can tell you what... there are a lot of things possible with this couple. I will tell you one thing I know to be true, this "lady" released her dirty laundry for the world to pick through and one day that will hurt her child. You can try to make her a martyr and Gibson a monster all you want, Gibson is mentally imbalanced and a racist, but since she is supposedly the sane one, that makes her actions every bit as bad as him

There is only one innocent here, their daughter

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:26:51 PM   
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That is possible...

I can tell you what... there are a lot of things possible with this couple. I will tell you one thing I know to be true, this "lady" released her dirty laundry for the world to pick through and one day that will hurt her child. You can try to make her a martyr and Gibson a monster all you want, Gibson is mentally imbalanced and a racist, but since she is supposedly the sane one, that makes her actions every bit as bad as him

There is only one innocent here, their daughter


I never said she was a martyr. I think she's pretty crazy herself, but she's manipulative and selfish, and that's easier to reconcile with society than Mel's raving lunatic episodes.

But yeah I think he hit her. And threatened her. And probably did knock her teeth out.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 4:34:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I heard as I was waking up today... so I don't know what news show it was, that Mel and his wife are packing up and moving to Australia.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:15:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was an expert on the news the other morning who has analyzed tapes for the FBI and he was certain the tapes were not tampered with, and that it was Mel's voice. I think its pretty clear from what he said that he is abusive. As far as I am concerned, a bigot, a racist, an anti-semite, are abusive qualities.

As far as the wife, while I cannot attest to her character in any way, she may be terrified of him, hence recording his voice; AND he is still responsible for his behavior. As she is responsible for hers. I dont think the burden of his abuse should be shifted to her. Are we saying "What did she do to provoke him?" That is what abused women have been asked for centuries.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:18:50 PM   
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There is only one innocent here, their daughter
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Meh, Mel's 54.

The point still stands, that a guy might treat his wife differently from his girlfriend who got pregnant out of wedlock.


That is possible...

I can tell you what... there are a lot of things possible with this couple. I will tell you one thing I know to be true, this "lady" released her dirty laundry for the world to pick through and one day that will hurt her child. You can try to make her a martyr and Gibson a monster all you want, Gibson is mentally imbalanced and a racist, but since she is supposedly the sane one, that makes her actions every bit as bad as him

There is only one innocent here, their daughter


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Yup-  the daughter is the one who will suffer.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:29:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Link to article about Mel going back to Oz:

http://www.examiner.com/x-57780-Hartford-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m7d18-Mel-Gibson-moving-back-to-Australia-with-estranged-wife-Robyn--far-away-from-Oksanas-media-circus

And according to this, they've already determined that the tapes have been tampered with:

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The recordings were analyzed by forensic audio experts and one of them appeared on Good Morning America last week. The tapes were altered and one of the expert's Arlo West, said they were recorded professionally with a microphone. This is why Oksana's voice is crystal clear and Gibson's is not. The tapes were also spliced together in places and had parts deleted in others, according to the experts.


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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:38:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where does it say that celebrities have to be anything different from anyone else, or is it in their elevated status of worthy of the constant public eye, they must be exemplary humans that we can all look upto.

Acting is a job, nothing more, a person makes a film, stars in a film, they are an entertainer and that is it, they should if they are in the public eye be judged on their ability to do their job as everyone is entitled to a private life, the media should not be party to the behind closed doors. Perhaps we as an entertained viewer would do well to give out what we are prepared to accept in our own lives, celebrities are just people, just like the rest of us.

As to the ever hungry media, if you value your own privacy, don't buy into media and make it more powerful, as one day, it might be your own private life being ripped open for the world to judge whilst x media organisation profits from your misery


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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:41:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting. The expert I heard speak said that his voice is less clear because she is the one speaking into the phone into the phone and he is not.

Maybe they deserve each other.

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RE: Mel Gibson - 7/18/2010 5:45:16 PM   
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