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thompsonx -> RE: Conservatives are going a little crazy with the lies (3/17/2010 7:35:48 PM)
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MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
Myths and misstatements of fact frequently circulate on the Internet, in email and on websites, and are repeated in endless loops of misinformation. One common set of such misinformation involves the history of the Social Security system.
One Common Form of the Myths:
"Franklin Roosevelt introduced the Social Security (FICA) program. He promised:
1) That participation in the program would be completely voluntary;
CORRECTING THE MYTHS AND MISSTATEMENTS
Myth 1: President Roosevelt promised that participation in the program would be completely voluntary
Persons working in employment covered by Social Security are subject to the FICA payroll tax. Like all taxes, this has never been voluntary.
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This would be the manditory tax on persons working in employment covered by social security
From the first days of the program to the present, anyone working on a job covered by Social Security has been obligated to pay their payroll taxes.
In the early years of the program, however, only about half the jobs in the economy were covered by Social Security. Thus one could work in non-covered employment and not have to pay FICA taxes (and of course, one would not be eligible to collect a future Social Security benefit). In that indirect sense, participation in Social Security was voluntary. However, if a job was covered, or became covered by subsequent law, then if a person worked at that job, participation in Social Security was mandatory.
There have only been a handful of exceptions to this rule, generally involving persons working for state/local governments. Under certain conditions, employees of state/local governments have been able to voluntarily choose to have their employment covered or not covered.
This is the quote from your cite.
It clearly states that the tax is only on those covered and not on those not covered.
What I was hoping you would do is bring up the original law...but you wont do that.
Now you will bluster and tell us that you have given all the proof you need.
If that is so then that is your business. If on the other hand you really want a discussion where we can learn from one another then why don't you bring up the original law and we can discuss what it actually says
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