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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/30/2009 11:54:49 PM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I have ended up in a stalemate on this issue.
 
if I specifically ask for a Male Dominant view (Why I would do this I have no idea) and anyone other than a Male Dominant answers they are wasting their time in my opinion because I will simply ignore thier answer
 
If you don't want my opinion fine, however if you ask a question I want to answer I'm gunna answer

 
A wise man speaks when he has something to say, A fool speaks because he has to say something.


Nice to meet the two of you.

chia* (the pet)



I never said I was either.... I can live with being Both.
 
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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 1:14:50 AM   
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And this is why later on I said I could care less who answers, the problem is when the person posting is more interested in discussing their right to answer rather than actually answering the question.

It happens, welcome to the world of internet forums. That said, I have observed that the number of said posts in a given thread tends to be a reflection of the wording in the OP. You will find very few such posts in threads where the OP says something like, "I'm mostly interested in answers from male dominants", but a crapload of them in threads where the OP says something like, "If you aren't a male dominant, don't answer!!!!" See the difference?
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And regardless of the people reading and who the thread belongs to there is the purpose of topic. Where as the topic may belong to the forum the resposibility of the people posting is to remain on topic. When a thread asks for a specific demographic that responce pool has valid results when it is maintained. People might learn a little more when they see how a specific demographic answers a specific question rather than diluting the topic with a gender right fueled "I'm >Blank< and my answer is more important than respecting the specific questions asked by the original poster"

Whether a "non demographic" post is on or off topic is completely dependent on the wording in the OP and/ or the response, IMO. As for people learning more from seeing how a specific demographic answers, is it really that hard to disregard other posts? I'd think not, as you posted earlier that you would do exactly that. I'll concede that sometimes other perspectives turn the topic in a different direction, but I don't really see that as negative.
As for your assertions on "gender right fueled" whatever, ummm... it isn't always about gender. Male subs answer questions directed to doms, and dommes answer questions directed to female subs, and vice versa... oh, and those damned switches!
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In addition to that as you have pointed out this is a forum, and because of that all you have to do is start a new thread asking the same question and inviting all gender and power dynamic roles to join in answering, but the Topic point was to ask a specific question to a specific group of people.

There is a reason that cross posting topics is a no-no, and this is pretty much it. From a forum standpoint, having the same discussion in multiple threads/ forums is incredibly messy, as references and quotes tend to fly back and forth between threads, confusing the hell out of people who are reading one but not the other. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that is at least part of the reason for the "anyone can post in any thread" policy. I can say that, for myself, I prefer to keep discussions to one thread.


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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 1:26:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan
In addition to that as you have pointed out this is a forum, and because of that all you have to do is start a new thread asking the same question and inviting all gender and power dynamic roles to join in answering, but the Topic point was to ask a specific question to a specific group of people.
 
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Actually, you aren't allowed to create mutiple posts asking the same question on CM. All but one of the threads will be yanked.

Personally, I've seen too many questions answered by groups that weren't targeted to particularly worry about it. I don't go out of my way to post when I'm not the target audience but if I feel I may be able to provide insight or help in some way, I post it. If that offends someone... eh... oh well. Can't make everyone happy. I can live with ruffling feathers on the Internet.

If they truly don't want to read my response, it's easy to skip my post or block me. I won't be offended by either.

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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 1:31:01 AM   
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Geez, why do I bother to post when you are around, AS? Agreed!

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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 1:33:08 AM   
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Oooo oooo!!! Is it so I can see your cleavage some more?

Cause I like that reason...

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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 1:38:38 AM   
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I think that I was Mis-understood.
 
I am not saying that the OP re ask the question in multiple places.
 
I am saying that the person who is not the requested demographic should re ask the question in a similar way in a forum that would allow for all people to reply or just to present their opinion in a non-de-railing fashion.
 
I also wish to point out that as I originally said I am torn on the subject because I can see how it would be annoying but then again If I have something to offer to the topic I am here to give that input.
 
I guess what annoys me most is that some people just use it as a way to yet at the OP because of what they requested. And Yes I agree how they ask is important to the responce that they will get.
 
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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 2:04:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I am saying that the person who is not the requested demographic should re ask the question in a similar way in a forum that would allow for all people to reply or just to present their opinion in a non-de-railing fashion. 
 



Eh... I don't really see why I need to reask a question that I don't even have just so that I can give my input on it. That, to me, seems more like it would stroke my ego and be ruder than just posting my response on the thread. I also don't see anything derailing in going "I know I'm not your requested demographic however I feel X, Y and Z needs to be said".

I see your point about people yelling at the OP athough I haven't noticed that as a real problem on these forums. It's more common for someone to yell about "I posted this in ask a MASTER - stop responding if you aren't a MASTER" in ruder language. YMMV.

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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 2:17:33 AM   
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I am saying that the person who is not the requested demographic should re ask the question in a similar way in a forum that would allow for all people to reply or just to present their opinion in a non-de-railing fashion.

I believe that I addressed this. No matter who starts the cross posted topic, thinking that they will remain separate is... ummm... optimistic at best.
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I also wish to point out that as I originally said I am torn on the subject because I can see how it would be annoying but then again If I have something to offer to the topic I am here to give that input.

I tend to lean in favour of more information that the OP can toss out if they choose to, personally, but get what you are saying.
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I guess what annoys me most is that some people just use it as a way to yet at the OP because of what they requested. And Yes I agree how they ask is important to the responce that they will get.

Again, welcome to the world of internet forums. Seriously, though, how much different is it than real life conversations between any group of people? If I were to ask a question, be it at a tailgate party or BDSM munch, and specify that I only wanted to hear from the girls (or guys), what do you think would happen?



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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 2:19:20 AM   
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Oooo oooo!!! Is it so I can see your cleavage some more?
Cause I like that reason...

Anytime, sweetie!


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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 2:22:27 AM   
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I really do lead a blessed life sometimes... *basks in the glow of cleavage before tumbling off to bed*

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RE: Dear Dominants - 12/31/2009 11:10:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan
Fair enough.  However, there's always CMail as a loophole around that.  In point of fact, I've always suspected that the best answers I've received to any question I've asked have come in the form of a private, off-the-boards message.  Especially because those replies have, in many cases, led to an ongoing dialogue that gave me a meatier answer than anything the boards had to offer.  But that's just me.
 
YMMV.


Given the restrictions and requirements that many people have on their private mail (only X gender between Y and Z ages will even show up or be read, etc) I honestly don't bother to privately message people unless we are already friendly or I really feel my message needs to be private.


Point taken.  In my case, I have too many forum buddies of varying ages, genders, and locations to put any filters on my mail.  I don't get the pages upon pages of email idiocy many people do and I've pretty much given up on finding a parter through this site so I don't worry about who CMails me.

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RE: Dear Dominants - 1/6/2010 9:48:17 AM   
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Back to the original question- I tend to interpret questions and answers, and give my own, from a M/f perspective, as that is what fits me. As with anything, i take what is applicable and useful to me, and leave the rest. Doesn't mean i don't recognize that there are more flavors here than in a Baskin Robbins shop, i just find a way to fit what's useful into my own little world.

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RE: Dear Dominants - 1/6/2010 10:01:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

  However, I tend to think at times that we may have benefited to an extent if some folks didn't take the gender lines quite so seriously when addressing topics to Dominants.

Yes, there are some topics that are gender specific.  I don't think it's as many as other folks are led to believe. 



Dear Lady Pact
The problem stems from the design of this site. Don't get me wrong on this point: I do think the forums are well laid out, easy to follow not only by topic but number of views is an interesting feature. And yes I agree that one is not forved to join endless groups (of one/two/three or four other members) in order to get a thread going...which consequently goes nowhere).
However I am forced to be gendered here and I am forced yo be either LGT or straight.
It's definitely way our of kilter with diversity legislation here (in my personal opoinion....please don't litigate CM).
That's why I have rarely ever posted on the Ask a Mistress or ask a Master Boards. The gender specificity makes a bollox of the responses sometimes.


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RE: Dear Dominants - 1/6/2010 10:33:15 AM   
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LP:
I go to GENERAL discussion if I have something for everyone...
I look there for issues affecting all..
I do not look at the gender or D-s "guidlines" but go in and look at thread titles..
adn see if I have anything to offer..or discuss..
 
I do feel that we may miss good info and feedback if there are those who DO NOT
post in ANY forum...eg) a male D not posting in the female D forums

GM

< Message edited by GYPSYMAMBO -- 1/6/2010 10:36:33 AM >


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RE: Dear Dominants - 1/6/2010 11:22:18 AM   
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All that someone needs to do is go onto either board and post a topic saying 'for Masters/Mistress' only' and there will be a pretty clear response type showing how the majority feel about such things.

I think people feel a divide based on their own preferences, the amount of times people are corrected/told to include other groups to include every preference. I think it is largely irrelevant. People will pick based on their knowledge of the subject posted regardless of what the heading is anyway, its one of the good things about message boards generally.

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RE: Dear Dominants - 1/6/2010 12:17:50 PM   
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LP,
I understand your concern about getting the "whole picture" but also remember that even when they do post to one gender based thread EVERYONE posts so in reality the question is being answered in a well rounded way. Now I have seen newbies fuss about who responded but they're reminded that anyone can post anywhere they'd like so hopefully the OP will read ALL responses & learn alot more than he/she originally intended.


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