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jonnyringpiece -> ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 5:10:14 AM)

now then,
i'm from the realist school of subology, which believes that 99% of guys submit to a domme female because its a turn-on.
so all this talk of 'genuine submissive' (one who submits without sexual gratification, and whose only motive in life, is the domme's satisfaction ) is, in almost all cases, a nonsense.
the very fact that many dommes complain about so many fakers, leads me to the conclusion that the sexes are on different wavelengths entirely.

and so, my question is, at what point has/would a domme become an overbearing nuisance for you?
when she starts to interfere with your vanilla schedule?
when she hurts too much and finds it amusing?
when your mojo runs dry?
when you felt she was a nasty, unpleasant character?
when you felt she was just... annoying?
....when exactly?
some honesty is required, purleeze.




LadyPact -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 5:35:27 AM)

Explain to Me why you believe someone's genitals has any bearing in this?  I.E. there are female submissives who submit because it is in their nature, but males only do it because their dick is involved.




sunshinemiss -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 5:41:07 AM)

Hello Johnnnie,

I believe, we have a case of fantasy / sexual stuff versus the lifestyle / 24-7 stuff here.

Some people like the fantasy, the bedroom stuff.  They get all hot and messy by it.  There are other people who have submissive personalities.  They feel at peace when they are serving. 

There's no right or wrong, but you are right that there are different things being discussed.

And if you think that serving isn't something that is gloriously beautiful, then I think you've never helped a sick loved one, you've never nursed a child to health, you've never helped a baby be birthed, you've never rubbed the back of someone who is hurting, you've never cooked for hungry people or cut the lawn for someone who is elderly and can't do that anymore.

Service comes in many different forms.  Do you really think people don't feel good, don't get joy out of that?

Best,
sunshine




CarrieO -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 5:47:09 AM)

Interesting that the OP joined today and is from such an exotic location (Togo).

I would like to note that it seems most of the complaints of "fakes" on this site tends to come from the male/Dom side.  Yes, there are female/Dommes who mention this, but I don't see it as a disproportionate amount.

It all comes down to how you define service.  It becomes a "nuisance" when a dominant partner and a submissive partner no longer see eye to eye on this definition. If the dominant partner wants a service sub and the sibmissive partner desires to be a sexual sub only, there will be a disconnect.

It has nothing to do with gender, imo.




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 6:40:38 AM)

lady pact : because it seems most men & women are essentially driven by different motives.
sunshinemiss : i accept that were there is genuine relationship (ie. one that would also exist without the bdsm aspect), then yes, 'service' is cool.
carrieo : i have ditched a bitch, so my anonymity is required to protect both parties concerned (and i'd like to visit Togo) ......other points, you make well.




LaTigresse -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 7:19:41 AM)

Perhaps she, in truth, ditched you......being so focused on your dick and all.




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 7:50:03 AM)

latigresse : err, no.. i'm pretty sure she wanted that contract signing, and i refrained -  so good try, but sorry ....   fail!
(next, please)




mnottertail -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 7:59:47 AM)

I am not a domme, nor am I submissive in any way shape or form.

But youth in their self centeredness and fantasy can get away with the 'if I cant lick your ass and have you beat me when I want, and otherwise be a walking, dripping, always on genitalia ib a leash when I want.....' will find themselves out of play and lonely masturbaters recalling the olden days when the prettiness fades.


Ron




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:03:47 AM)

ron : masturbation is preferable to being with an annoying bitch.




Wolf2Bear -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:06:49 AM)

In one answer....not applicable. How's that for honesty?




windchymes -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:07:18 AM)

Unless you find an annoying bitch who can lick your ass the way you always dreamed of, then you might have a big dilemma......[:D]




LaTigresse -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:07:44 AM)

Then quit bitching about the bitch and go wank off!




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:13:46 AM)

latigresse : as it happens, i can do both - but there's a time and a place for everything




mnottertail -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:18:50 AM)

and may continue to be so, for all your days. there are scads of people who live alone, and are short of fulfilling their needs even at a 50% level, let alone higher percentiles.

there are myriad examples of 'submissive men' here who beg 'mistress' to make them eat their own cum, and having cum, have no interest in the actual doing, it is the leading up to it, that turns them on, and for the one-dimensional sort of submissives (and I am not sure at all that there is anything wrong with that) who, have a punchlist of wants that have to fit some pattern or mould; yanno: OK, first you make me get on my knees and lick your 9" fire engine red silletos for 6.237 seconds, then make me take them off your feet, and lick the two week old toejam from between your next to and smallest toe for 11.781 seconds, and drop like a woodtick out of the trees onto my extended tongue raised in the air, as your anal sphincter immediatly relaxes onto the tip and slides up to the root of my tongue and I wiggle it in a left handed circular motion for 7.108 minutes, and unbeknownst to me, your stilletos are magically back on your feet while you look down upon me and say masturbate on my shoes you filthy cocksucker and lick it off for 9.236 seconds, and then dominatrix, get the fuck out of here, you annoy me with your constant demands........ well, that gets old after one go, and those folks are going to usually get their best days with pro dommes.

Ron




redwoodgirl -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:25:21 AM)

Good one Ron!




librarysub -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:28:24 AM)

i think these types of male subs are very often the ones that try to "convert" female subs to dominants. They get a submissive personality until they get a hard on, then "let" the woman get them off by being "mean" and can gripe about it later.

Just saying




jj292 -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:31:01 AM)

There are plenty of pro-dommes out there that will go away whenever you want them to. Sounds like that's the type of domme you are looking for.




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:41:57 AM)

last few posts : i don't doubt for one minute that there are types to which you refer - i know what i like & i ain't one of them - so you appear to be laboring under a misapprehension if you think you're describing moi.




jonnyringpiece -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:48:35 AM)

ron : btw... sounds like you've considered those fantasy points long prior to my 'interjection' in this forum  - just sayin' :)




LaTigresse -> RE: ditch the bitch. (11/23/2009 8:49:10 AM)

Sooooooooo, you've an argument for every point made that does not agree with you 100%. What exactly is your mission here? To whine and feel sorry for yourself?




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