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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

This makes me feel good about the potential for the next 4 to 8 years.  If he can create this many jobs and cauterize the wound created by NAFTA and all the other AFTAs then we will be on the road to recovery.  If he doesn't stop the flow of jobs out of this country, the patient will bleed to death from a chest wound while he is setting a broken leg.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Let's hope you have an administration that actually does create real jobs, jobs where the employees can again take pride in their work, for here the jobs that will be created for the benefit scrounger will be meaningless, mind bending non entity jobs, like litter picking, verge cleaning, street sweeping, graffiti cleaners and chewing gum pickers. Anything else of interest will be thwarted  by health and safety requirements and / or the need for expensive special training and  qualifications. So no mass public works of the past, no monuments to tribute man's abilities in hard times.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Let's hope you have an administration that actually does create real jobs, jobs where the employees can again take pride in their work, for here the jobs that will be created for the benefit scrounger will be meaningless, mind bending non entity jobs, like litter picking, verge cleaning, street sweeping, graffiti cleaners and chewing gum pickers. Anything else of interest will be thwarted  by health and safety requirements and / or the need for expensive special training and  qualifications. So no mass public works of the past, no monuments to tribute man's abilities in hard times.

Thanks for completely ignoring the context.

The U.S. has a deteriorating infrastructure. It needs repair/replacement.

How are these not real jobs? Real construction companies will get real contracts which they'll spend on real projects that have real meaning, for which they'll have to hire real people who will spend real money.

Your characterization is gilb, unsupported, and unrealistic.

GDP = G + I + C + X. Freshman stuff. Government spending, business investment, consumer spending, and net exports.

The largest? Consumer spending--2/3 of the economy! But consumers aren't spending. Businesses aren't investing. The U.S. has a huge trade deficit. Short run? Government spending, which puts real money in the hands of real money who spend it in the real economy.

Yes, that's not a good long run strategy---as the Obama team has already indicated. But it's an excellent and necessary short term strategy.

It has nothing to do with your silly gum portrayal.

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How are these not real jobs? Real construction companies will get real contracts which they'll spend on real projects that have real meaning, for which they'll have to hire real people who will spend real money.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Obama's economic team are not waiting. Obama plans to reveal more details at a news conference today, but word is that several hundred million dollars will be spent to create more jobs.

" Though he does not take office until Jan. 20, Obama's team of economic advisors are already working out the details of a two-year package to save or create 2.5 million jobs that could cost several hundred million dollars. "

Full Story click here

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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How are these not real jobs? Real construction companies will get real contracts which they'll spend on real projects that have real meaning, for which they'll have to hire real people who will spend real money.

Depends on the job.  Are we talking about the one man actually digging the ditch or the four/five lazy fucks who stand around and watch?

Next time you drive past a road construction crew, take a moment to watch who does what.  Leaning on a shovel is not my idea of a "real job."

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So what's your plan for fixing the real crumbling of the real infrastructure?

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image]there are 9 states out of 50 that operate still in the black!  how do they do it?

Texas
West Virginia
Indiana
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Montana
Wyoming
Alaska

do these state governments have a recipe that the feds should talk a look at?  what do you guys think?

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m18.gif[/image]i thought the term "in the black" when it pertains to budgets etc, means "no debt" 

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ORIGINAL: missuzy24

in response to variation30

yes, i am collared, but still a "slave-in-training and imho not fully "owned". what is your idea of "all the good ones"? lol

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Currently, we need infrastructure improvements. We have for a while. Fixing that is indeed new jobs, and government spending ALSO goes into GDP, as does the multiplier effects of the money those workers in turn spend. Consumers and businesses aren't spending, so giving them more money doesn't (in the short run) help much (as they are saving instead).