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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 1:07:56 PM

SimplyMichael

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I am glad someone mentioned maintanance spankings. Some women need to feel that collar around their neck and some women need to feel taken and being thrown down over daddy's knee and spanked just makes them all goey.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 2:36:30 PM

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omggg maintaniance spankings haha defintily make me goey!

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 3:04:40 PM

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On occasion I give my girl a "slave beating". Often if she subconsciously starts to feel out of place, I notice certain behaviors and adjust them with the "lash". Afterwards she feels better and acts better. It is not often, but on occasion. I tend to do other things that also reinforce her place as a slave, a few examples are asking permission for taking a drink, using the restroom, eating, etc. and not allowing her to sit on furniture (the exception being dinner time with the family or if we are going out to eat).

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
So i'm curious do you beat your slave to reinforce their position?
What do you think of the concept?
Is the concept just something of fantasy (my book)?

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 4:34:09 PM

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I’m not familiar with the series, but I am familiar with the fact this is a common concept. Sounds to me as if the speaker is the one who feels the need to have a ‘direct and unmistakable’ reminder’ -- “hey, look everybody, I get to beat a slave!”
Otherwise it falls into the category of “because I can’.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 4:38:30 PM

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and misst, love ya but I do like the word play because when he's got me tied up and is going to town on my ass, it's not work - it's fun and definately doesn't feel when I was beaten in sparring classes!).

I'm all for calling it whatever ya like yanno
I often feel like ive done ten rounds with mike tyson myself !!

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On occasion I give my girl a "slave beating". Often if she subconsciously starts to feel out of place, I notice certain behaviors and adjust them with the "lash"

So so hot

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Sounds to me as if the speaker is the one who feels the need to have a ‘direct and unmistakable’ reminder’ -- “hey, look everybody, I get to beat a slave!”
Otherwise it falls into the category of “because I can’.

Not sure if you are implying that this kind of beating is done in public but if you are, personally i have tended to find that maintenance or reinforcing beatings are done in private.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 4:51:40 PM

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There are lots of people who do maintenance spankings. It's just another ritual to help a s type center themselves. No different than kneeling at the door to welcome their partner home or recite a mantra. Some people simply need more physicality than others.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 5:22:07 PM

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By "beating" I'm assuming you mean, whips, canes and so on, or thats what I'm going with anyways lol
Speaking as a sub, I agree with all the reasons you listed, especially "Because they can" and I'll add one, "as a reward".
The only time I think it's wrong to do it, is out of anger, when drunk or when the slave has been set up to fail, which in a fantasy world wouldn't exist.

Disclaimer: This post was made in response to the post made by missturbation and is based on my opinion and experiences only.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 5:27:10 PM

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For us at least, a beating is more of a prize than a punishment. Fox is a masochist, I am a sadist. When we have the time to partake in it, and are both in the mood, I will beat him. I dont believe that the maintenance spankings would help in his situation. Everything he does on a daily basis is a reminder of his position. He hurts for me often, its almost a necessity for us to enjoy sex. However a real good beating takes time and effort and we only get to engage on occasion. We thoroughly enjoy it when we do though.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 7:04:07 PM

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Mostly for me and my slave its just part of training as well as fun for both of us. I love seeing how much my slave can take and so does she up, until she uses her safe word.

It is never done in anger but in fun only and no lasting physical marks come from it. But she has to sit lightly for a day or two afterwards.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 7:15:33 PM

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Not sure if you are implying that this kind of beating is done in public but if you are, personally i have tended to find that maintenance or reinforcing beatings are done in private.

As I am not familiar with the series, and it is referred to as the Marketplace series, yes I was assuming the speaker was talking about a public venue---as in the marketplace!

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 7:24:33 PM

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FR, before I read the rest...

Just Because I Want To, is the best reason I have to beat someone.

Now I'll go back and read, and see if anyone else comes up with one that sounds better to me.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 7:24:44 PM

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You know, before I experienced it, I would ave scoffed at the notion espoused in the books. When I knelt and begged for the collar, part of the ritual was to give me 3 strikes with this evil thing that had 3 strands knotted with what felt like freaking cannon balls at the end of it. I scoffed, when he showed it to me, thinking pfft, that toy won't even tickle. 3 strikes and I was bawling. Not because it hurt, which it DID. But because of how it effected me, emotionally, to be naked, kneeling before someone who had the power to strike me like that whenever he chose. It laid me bare, emotionally. I wasn't even remotely prepared for that sort of a response. I hated it. I hated him, and I hated that gawdawful three balled bastard, at that moment anyway. Fickle slut that I am. I was hugging and kissing him minutes later. Turned out to be the better choice, since my other impulse was to shove that hated implement up his umm....nostrils yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 8:51:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Just for clarity i am NOT using the word beat in a negative or abusive way. I don't like the word 'play', i prefer beat or torture. I don't play in a scene and i don't play at this lifestyle so i don't use the word in reference to me.

I agree--I refer to what my beloved does with me as beating, because spanking doesn't seem appropriate when you're using a crop or a flogger, for example, or when the blows fall on other places than the ass. I absolutely adore it and it makes me want his body in every filthy way imaginable so I certainly don't mean it in a negative way.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/4/2008 9:39:57 PM

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There are those that need it and thrive in it. But they are a minority in my opinion. They fall under the category of Sadists and masochists. This is not for everyone. Why is the value of a slave measured by how much pain she/ he can endure. That is plain silly. I have trouble accepting the idea of someone being beaten just because, or to be shown they are slave. That to me is abuse. Despite the popular belief, you do not have to beat someone to "keep them in place" If someone needs to beat a sub into submission then they are in an uncompatible relationship because a sub or slave would serve from the heart because they want to, they choose to be there, they dont do it because they are afraid of the whip. That type of submission is shallow. I do agree on spankings, floggings for training and or punishment of for fun (play spankings) but not a daily event or "just because" as it serves no purpose. Again, this is different if both Dom and sub want this.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 4:07:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

I personally have never thought of the idea that a beating could be to remind me of my place and what i am.
So i'm curious do you beat your slave to reinforce their position?

I have used pain, painful circumstance, forcing a submissive to endure pain as part of a process of reinforcing their status and role

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What do you think of the concept?

It can be useful... I don't think simply "beating" someone would be particularly effective. But as part of a larger process, I have found it to be a useful tool.

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Is the concept just something of fantasy (my book)?

No, not a fantasy at all.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 4:13:13 AM

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I don't need to get beaten to feel submissive, but I do notice that whenever I get it, whether in "play" or just because, it does immediately put me in that mushy state of mind. It takes me to a compliant place right away, like nothing else can.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 4:29:22 AM

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My motivation depends on the whether or not the submissive enjoys pain; maybe that's because my sadistic tendencies are relatively low compared to lots of others around here.

If the submissive likes pain, then I look at dishing it out as a reward

If the submissive doesn't like pain, then I'll dish it out with a "just because I can"/"remind her of her place" mindset

For punishments, I tend toward taking away privileges or finding something that fits the offense; beatings don't seem like an adequate tool to try to correct behavior to me.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 5:35:01 AM

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For punishments, I tend toward taking away privileges or finding something that fits the offense; beatings don't seem like an adequate tool to try to correct behavior to me.

That's because you haven't beat the bitch hard enough.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 7:18:44 AM

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That's because you haven't beat the bitch hard enough.

heh . . . though it's appropriate that you refer to them as bitches because I take a Dog Whisperer approach. Beatings aren't very effective for training dogs either, so if as a kinkster I'm gonna treat a girl like a dog I might as well train her like one too.

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RE: Reasons for a beating !! - 11/5/2008 8:15:39 AM

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There are those that need it and thrive in it. But they are a minority in my opinion. They fall under the category of Sadists and masochists.

Not the case. I'm not a masochist and still thrive......it's about the relationship as a whole and what works best, not the particular instance of beating.

This is not for everyone. Why is the value of a slave measured by how much pain she/ he can endure. That is plain silly.

Some might consider the value of a slave in terms of how much pain they can endure but I don't imagine that would be the ONLY value, by any means.

I have trouble accepting the idea of someone being beaten just because, or to be shown they are slave. That to me is abuse.

It's abuse if the person receiving it thinks it is, but in any case, for many people it's quite the opposite.

Despite the popular belief, you do not have to beat someone to "keep them in place"
If someone needs to beat a sub into submission then they are in an uncompatible relationship because a sub or slave would serve from the heart because they want to, they choose to be there, they dont do it because they are afraid of the whip. That type of submission is shallow.

It could very easily be construed that I'm 'beaten into submission' and I very often DO do things because I'm 'afraid of the whip'. I'm in a very compatable relationship but I certainly don't 'serve from the heart' the whole time (or much of the time, actually). Not all M/s relationships are based on serving or have that as the premise for being in it.

I do agree on spankings, floggings for training and or punishment of for fun (play spankings) but not a daily event or "just because" as it serves no purpose.

It's clear that it does serve a purpose for some people for a variety of reasons, depending on those involved.

Again, this is different if both Dom and sub want this.

That's it in a nutshell. It may not be what I want at the moment it occurs but I know that it works, is effective and has the desired effect.

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