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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/4/2008 12:10:15 AM   
MistressRouge


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Status: offline 		There is no connection whatsever to BDSM and Martial Arts I on believe, I feel it is just coincedence

I practiced martial arts for years around 10 years ago, got to 9th kyu, competed in kata and kumite.

Martial arts is most definately great for self-discipline, meditation, physical and mental wellbeing/conditioning, stamina, stress release, and also very good for personal achievement especially regarding grading etc.

Martial arts is great for overall fitness and mental wellbeing  

I agree with others, some practice martial arts for the wrong reasons too, sadly.

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 8:35:06 AM   
PainCompliant


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Status: offline 		One time I had a three day session with someone who was a black belt in tae kwon do.  I am sure he had training in other martial arts too.  His skills and training meant:

1.  I did not have to start off by submitting.  He simply took me to the ground and restrained me.  Message delivered.  His control over me would be at the minimum, physical.

2.  Regularly he would challenge me and then work me over - throws, grapevines, smothers, and such.  Both punishing me and breaking me down.  He was truly all powerful.  These sessions broke me both physically and mentally.

3.  When I was restrained he would apply pressure points and joint locks - hands-on pain.  Hands-on made the pain more personal.  He was the one who inspired my screen name, "Pain Compliant," which refers to the pain compliance techniques used by law enforcement.

Needs and expectations are different for everyone.  My focus is on being controlled.  My desire is for that control to be real to the point of not requiring my cooperation and even permitting me to ineffectively challenge it.  Someone with a high level of martial arts training should be able to sieze and maintain such control. 

Other strong men could probably also force control by overpowering, but there is the very real danger of physical injury.  With a skilled martial artist, such danger of injury is minimalized. 

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 8:37:04 AM   
JustDarkness


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Status: offline 		the trick is..as soon as they say "attack me" kick them in the nuts with out hesitation. Mostly it works...more often peopel don't dare too
But that way...we are closer to bdsm again  lol..soem ball torture

ps. I liek you examples though

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 8:41:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Unless they got some fat thighs, then your fucked.

Or if they happen to be a pro bodybuilder and a drill sergeant in the army...oh yes, and they just happen to be a woman.

I found out that little tidbit last minute.

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 8:42:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rumtiger

Unless they got some fat thighs, then your fucked.

Or if they happen to be a pro bodybuilder and a drill sergeant in the army...oh yes, and they just happen to be a woman.

I found out that little tidbit last minute.


lol..... I posted the previous comment because a friend of mine is with the dutch royal marines. They had tae kwon do classes and he was asked to attack. He kicked the instructor in the nuts...

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 11:38:44 AM   
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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/5/2008 5:27:25 PM   
AStudyInScarlet


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we found that it was a natural transition into bdsm for me because of my tkd experience, especially as a switch. one of the main tenets of tkd, as korea has a rigid relationship structure, is giving respect to seniors and juniors. you owe your deference to seniors and always always always obey. even if they might be wrong, they are your superior so you comply and don't point out their error. you come to revere their skill, experience, humility, patience, strength. you almost worship them. on the flip side, you have a responsibility to your juniors. since you are higher ranking and more experienced, you are responsible for them. their safety, their correct training, their errors. if they get hurt, it's your fault. their success depends on your leadership. you honor them for their obedience. above all, you respect them.
i was immediately able to transition into both dominant and submissive roles. i call my master (tkd) "sir" and bow to him out of deep-seated habit and desire to please him, so my boyfriend used that. hell, i have someone i call master! grandmaster to be specific.
as a bodan, i have had plenty of experience training others below me. brag alert: i even taught class while i was still a color belt cause i'm awesome. it takes a kind of control that comes with experience to deliver blows to someone below you, who doesn't have the experience. you have to be hard enough on them so they learn to accept pain. you have to recognize that they might be fearful and resistant at first. you have to reach a delicate balance of controlled violence (sound familiar?). you have to be strict so they become good martial artists. you have to be sensitive to the fact that they respect and sometimes worship you. the parallels are striking (pun intended).
the physicality also lends itself nicely. i've trained my body to give and accept violence. a surprising fact is that most beginners have a bigger problem striking than being struck. you learn to strike with intensity and control. the blow lands exactly where you intended, with exactly the force intended. of course, accepting violence is an important part of training. one drill i hate beyond all things unholy is falling. so i've been made to fall over and over and over again (which i did because i'm obedient). master wants me to be able to fall if it were to happen to me, so i have to practice. so now i can take whatever it thrown at me in the bedroom and i can also give it just as well.
my wonderful boyfriend chose "tapping out" as our safe signal because it is a motion that is second nature to me and i can do without thinking when i'm in trouble. tapping out is what you do when grappling with someone and they have reached your limit. tkd has its own safeword!

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/6/2008 2:57:04 AM   
JustDarkness


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Status: offline 		tapping out is a good idea.
I started martial arts with judo. Later I skipped to other martial arts. But till then...tapping out..while beeing choked..worked great..lol.

Also you comparison to letting your body getting used to impact...is propably for a sub..the same in bdsm as in martial arts.
love that comparison.

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/6/2008 5:05:21 PM   
AStudyInScarlet


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Status: offline 		it definitely works great! whether you are in a choke hold or gagged...

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/6/2008 8:48:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't if any one mentioned it but when listing martial arts as interest you can have a academic interest in it.  Writers looking for a little more realism, gamers look for cool ideas, or even historians who like learning about Fairbairn-Sykes or hypothetical influences of Pankration on eastern martial arts systems, even just knowing something neat to talk about.


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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 11/10/2008 12:16:31 AM   
hermioneinchains


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Status: offline 		You're all missing the point. At least for me. I'm a black belt in karate (yes, just karate. simple, but fun) and took class for six years, all through my teens. The BDSM comes into it fairly clearly for a sub when you're being yelled at and ordered around by a teacher, especially if that teacher uses you to demonstrate ways to attack or restrain someone. For me, it's the same as stage combat class, which I've also taken for years. Nothing quite like carefully calculated violence being thrown at you by an expert. No damage, but all the exhilaration of a genuine attack. If you've been put in your place by a martial arts master, you know what I mean. I'm sure the same can be said for Dom/mes, from the other perspective. I'm fairly positive I wasn't the only one turned on when my karate instructor wrenched my wrists behind my back and said, "try to get away."

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 5:51:24 AM   
footlick15205


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Status: offline 		I think that a dominant with martial arts training makes them more powerful,
especialy if the dom is a female... I first got interested in the bdsm scene shortly
after watching the avengers television series as Emma Peel would beat up
men dressed in leather. I have served both martial arts trained doms and non
martial arts trained doms and had much more fear of the trained martial artists..

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 6:23:20 AM   
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  On a boring Sunday night, I am browsing through profiles and I realize that a good percentage of the people on the site are into martial arts as well as BDSM. It seems too high a percentage to be random. As, such, I have a two part question for the Sunday night lurkers. Why do you think people who are into BDSM are also drawn to martial arts (or do you think they are)? How do the two mix for you?

  For myself, knowing me a bit more fully now than I did when I first started training, I definitely see a tie between what I do during training in both arts. Both my instructor and my master give me orders. Both push me beyond physical limits. I obey both even when I'd rather pass out for a few hours. The endless protocol in my martial art, while it sometimes feels silly, more often feels mystic and electrifying. These things appeal to the submissive in me. However, I see many dominants who are into it as well, who might get completely different things out of it.
 



While I have not paid much attention to that particular activity, I would venture a guess that it may have to do with all the self analysis one is required to do

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 6:41:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess you just have to look at the stripped down roots of the martial arts in the EAST I think we are mudding up the true meaning of what it is to be a person in martial arts it really is a spirtual journey or east meets west philosphical bs again trying to change the pure for garabge no wonder people need prozac make everything so confuzzled

Find your self and you shall find your destiny oh and stay away from socialpathic people who run off with all your money lol

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 6:44:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think a knowlege of martial arts ahead of time gives a newbie Dominant an edge. He understands the benefits of dicipline and the strike zones in Martial Arts are the "stay away from" zones in BDSM.

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 8:29:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are lots of other very common ones like geeks, Ren Fair/SCA, Pagan, poly, etc. Not all kinky people are into all of the above, but there's a lot of interest overlap. I've done several forms of martial arts, starting before I got into BDSM.

I don't see martial arts as being sexual, unless I bring it into sparring play with someone I'm romantically involved with. It *does* release endorphins, and gives me more ideas of ways to hurt people as safely as possible.

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RE: Martial Arts and BDSM - 8/7/2009 5:11:08 PM   
VanIsleKnight


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Status: offline 		I'm drawn to martial arts for the usual reasons, fitness, ability to defend myself, and it looks darn cool.  The other reason I'm drawn to martial arts though is sparring, to see how good I am, to compete, to have fun, and it also sounds like a delicious form of foreplay/power struggle.  If I could be beaten by a woman in hand-to-hand combat and pinned me, rendering me helpless, actually making me physically beg for mercy?  My -God- that would be powerfully erotic to me.

And it's fun if I win too of course. :D


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