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Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 3:39:09 PM   
CallaFirestormBW


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Status: offline 		Ok, here's my question. What are we entitled to by virtue of our being born?

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 3:47:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
Ok, here's my question. What are we entitled to by virtue of our being born?
CFB
Death. Everything in between is a bonus.

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 3:51:48 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		Merc stole my answer.

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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:01:35 PM   
NuevaVida


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Status: offline 		And here I was going to say Life.

We are not always entitled to death.  The laws against euthanasia come to mind.

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:04:52 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		It may depend on whose family you are born into.  I don't see Paris Hilton as being all that hot, her nose is pointy, she isnt that pretty, but she does know how to pose for pictures (all her pics look staged), it has got to help that she was born a Hilton.
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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:05:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Merc stole my answer.

I was peeking at your cheat sheet. You keep it on the inside of your thigh right? (Sorry - old Catholic HS flash back!)

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:14:28 PM   
slaveboyforyou


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Status: offline 		You're entitled to the life that you choose to live.  No one on this planet can determine your destiny.  You can be born in the most repressive environment on Eath, but you can choose to rebel.  You don't have to live under any rules but your own.  Your life may be short, but it will be YOUR life.  Break rules, do what you want, and go to hell happy. 

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:15:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Merc stole my answer.


I was peeking at your cheat sheet. You keep it on the inside of your thigh right? (Sorry - old Catholic HS flash back!)


mmmm LaTigress in a short plaid skirt, starched white blouse, dark blue knee socks, mary janes.  mmmmmm.  huuuummmmmm.  mmmmmmmm.

Uh..sorry, what was the question?

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:20:08 PM   
Maxwell67


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Death. Everything in between is a bonus.

Gotta agree with this. 

That being said, I will respect (and I am willing to take what reasonable actions are possible for me to insure that my fellow human beings do the same) the rights of individual human beings as they are defined by the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights as long as they demonstrate their willingness to do the same.  I hold that any right can be voluntarily waived by an informed and consenting adult only as it applies to themselves, and under the conditions they agree to.

I also hold opinions about what courtesies I would like to see extended and I am particular about two points:  1) Treatment of children - I think they all deserve to enter adulthood as free individuals endowed with equal rights and opportunites.  2) I value quality of life over quantity (lifespan)

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:23:48 PM   
CallaFirestormBW


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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

And here I was going to say Life.

We are not always entitled to death.  The laws against euthanasia come to mind.


Too true -- and the laws against suicide as well.

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:25:12 PM   
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starting with endless euphoria!

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:27:57 PM   
CallaFirestormBW


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everything and more.

starting with endless euphoria!



*Grins* Supposing that you are right, who would be responsible for providing these entitlements?

Calla Firestorm


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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 4:28:14 PM   
kiwisub12


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Status: offline 		About the only thing i can think of is ...  air. I did think of food and water, but there are many that can't make the assumption that they are entitled to these things. Of course their lives tend to be short, or shortened.

Life is hard, and then you die.  

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 5:53:42 PM   
coupleowl


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Status: offline 		We're not entitled to anything, we are either freely given or strive to achieve. 

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 6:01:37 PM   
candystripper


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Status: offline 		Well, I suppose it depends on the sense in which you use the phrase 'entitled'.  No one is logically assured very much of anything, even air, merely by dint of having been born *alive*. 
 
On the other hand, I chose to view my fellow humans as worthy of fundamental dignity and respect as *humans* unless and until such time as they transgress (or achieve) in such a way as to alter or lose (or elevate) that status.
 
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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 6:06:33 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		I think we are entitled to everything and anything we put the EFFORT into attaining, then, as some have said, we die

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 6:40:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

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everything and more.

starting with endless euphoria!



*Grins* Supposing that you are right, who would be responsible for providing these entitlements?

Calla Firestorm



the natural flow of energy would direct that in my direction.

my toils would yeild some assets, which add to the tll- when combined with others whom added, then divided up, each participant would reap utopia as the needs among folks differ.

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 6:48:06 PM   
DomDolf


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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 7:16:54 PM   
krikket


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Status: offline 		Okay, someone's gotta say it (lol):

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Death and taxes are unfortunatly not optional.

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RE: Entitlement -- Thought, Word, Deed - 8/12/2008 7:20:40 PM   
Roselaure


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And here I was going to say Life.

We are not always entitled to death.  The laws against euthanasia come to mind.


That's a technicality.  Wait long enough and it comes to everyone

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