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FangsNfeet -> Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/2/2008 10:23:46 PM)

Rather than being played to make music, I'm curious as to how many of us get upset to see an instrument hang on a wall or be used as some other form of decoration/use.




GreedyTop -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/2/2008 10:25:50 PM)

I cant say anything..lol my guitar (acoustic) is in its case, taking up space in a corner.

To be fair, I don't really know how to play, anyway, and the neck needs work (it's kinda bowed, and I havent got the patience to take off the strings, do the adjustment and restring it...). Not to mention, I cant tune to save my life..LOL




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/2/2008 11:48:30 PM)

I actually can play the guitar, and I have 2 of them.  But I rarely play anymore.  They are both sitting in cases.  People ask me all the time why I never play anymore, and I can't honestly say why.  I just kind of lost interest in it.  I kind of go through phases like that, so I may actually get them out and dust 'em off again. 

I do know a lot of folks with pianos sitting in their house that never get played.  I never really understood paying that much money for a nice piano and not learning to play it. 




LondonArt -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/3/2008 3:10:08 AM)

It doesn't usually bother me when cheap crappy instruments are hung up as ornaments, because half of them probably aren't fit for much more. But I pass a hair place on the way to work that has a lovely Gibson Memphis just stuck there in the window, and I get the urge to rescue it.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/3/2008 4:37:12 AM)

This one time, at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy.




Alumbrado -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/3/2008 7:15:44 AM)

I agree with LA that mass produced cheap instruments turned decorations aren't any big loss.

My pet peeve swings the other way.... perfectly good professional grade instruments turned into exorbitantly priced 'collectors items'. 
Speaking as someone who bought a '58 gold top for a few hundred bucks a long time ago, and sold it later for about the same, it irks me that no one will ever get to play one of those again, unless they are able to drop many many thousands on one... which rules out most musicians.




joannaloveslave -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 3:04:51 AM)

yes, it's like how my parents have this big piano in the house and nobody uses it except for me (and i don't live with them anymore)




seeksfemslave -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 5:29:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
I do know a lot of folks with pianos sitting in their house that never get played.  I never really understood paying that much money for a nice piano and not learning to play it. 
I think its probably because learning to play a piano is very difficult. If ever the kids clamour for one, buy an old banger first to see if the have any talent or real interest.
In most cases the answer will be NO.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 5:34:38 AM)

I have Angel's guitar sitting here, in my apartment and it has ben there for nearly 9 months. It will be a prop for a photo shoot at some point. It was a really nice acoustic guitar until the bridge got broken while he was moving. Now, its a decoration or a prop.
I dont feel badly when an instrument isnt being played. It isnt like they are rare, and by having one someone else is being deprived of it. They wanted one, they planned on playing it, but never learned, never got good.. whatever the reason, its hasnt gone anywhere. SO, rather than eat the loss and get rid of it, they decorate with it. I see nothing wrong with it.
Angel's parents have a host of musical instruments from when he lived at home. Neither sister ever learned to play, and now that he is out of the house they are all decorative. Well used in the time he was there, and not even touched now that he is gone

DV




KatyLied -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 6:45:06 AM)

This is timely.  My brother has an American Strat, purchased in the 70's that he handed down to my son over the weekend.  This guitar probably hasn't been touched in many years.  My son is going to have it restored and restrung (he's lefthanded).  He is excited about this guitar and having it restored.  He was im'ing madly to his friends yesterday telling them all about it.




Alumbrado -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 11:48:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I think its probably because learning to play a piano is very difficult. If ever the kids clamour for one, buy an old banger first to see if the have any talent or real interest.
In most cases the answer will be NO.



Worst advice ever... buying a crappy instrument is a good way to guarantee that any talent will be stifled by the crappy sounds produced even when the student is doing everything right.
Buy an inexpensive electronic keyboard, or rent a proper instrument short term, or see if a friend, school, etc. has a decent one to explore on. 

And learning to play the piano well enough to enjoy it, is about as difficult as learning to play a video game. Mastering the piano is another story, but just learning to play is quite do-able.




Alumbrado -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 11:51:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

This is timely.  My brother has an American Strat, purchased in the 70's that he handed down to my son over the weekend.  This guitar probably hasn't been touched in many years.  My son is going to have it restored and restrung (he's lefthanded).  He is excited about this guitar and having it restored.  He was im'ing madly to his friends yesterday telling them all about it.


Second worst advice ever... [:D]  Your son is going to take his most talented hand and relegate it to the task of wiggling a pick, and take his less agile hand to cover all the notes? 

Hell, Hendrix had to take massive drugs to pull that stunt off....[8D]




stella41b -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 12:03:34 PM)

If you heard the way I play most musical instruments you'd be extremely glad to find them on walls. Nailed preferably.




popeye1250 -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 12:27:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Rather than being played to make music, I'm curious as to how many of us get upset to see an instrument hang on a wall or be used as some other form of decoration/use.


I have an expensive violin that I haven't used much in the last few years that just sits in it's case but a neighbor is taking lessons and lately I've been playing some with her.
It was made in Germany. The best ones are made in Germany and Italy.
When I started taking lessons I rented one by the month that was made in China and it sounded like it was made in China, real squeeky and whiney.
You can pick those up for $200-$300 but they're not really worth it.Don't bother.
A good one, made in Germany or Italy starts at $1,000 and up and you can tell the difference from the Chinese ones immediately.Much better resonance and tone.
When I was taking lessons up in N.H. my teacher told me that one of her other students who went to U.N.H. had a $20,000 violin that the uni let her borrow.
And she said that she once played a Stradivarious or a "cannon" as they call them in slang. Those things go for $Millions!
The violin that she used to teach and to play with in her band was 120 years old.
So, you get what you pay for.
I have an electronic tuner for my fiddle, much easier.
So, it will get more use in the near future.




LondonArt -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 1:20:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

This is timely.  My brother has an American Strat, purchased in the 70's that he handed down to my son over the weekend.  This guitar probably hasn't been touched in many years.  My son is going to have it restored and restrung (he's lefthanded).  He is excited about this guitar and having it restored.  He was im'ing madly to his friends yesterday telling them all about it.


Second worst advice ever... [:D]  Your son is going to take his most talented hand and relegate it to the task of wiggling a pick, and take his less agile hand to cover all the notes? 

Hell, Hendrix had to take massive drugs to pull that stunt off....[8D]


Yes, because it isn't like most right handed guitarists do the exact same thing and play perfectly well. No, that never happens.




Termyn8or -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 1:32:30 PM)

LOL, I was too aloof yesterday to get into this but here I am.

If I hit the lottery or something I would most likely buy every type of musical instrument I could think of. I mean I wouldn't necessarily need all the different types of cellos for example, but I would want one, and a sax, and a violin for sure. I already have a piano and enough guitars. I got a buddy with an antique violin but the fucker won't bring it over and I think he said the bow was broke.

I have his electric guitar which I think I am going to claim, as he seems quite uninterested in it. I will pay him for it and be fair, but I did quite a bit of work on it. IF he is absolutely adamant about getting it back I guess I'll have to, but I will try to buy it. He is not rich, enough money can be made to talk here. He can't play at all.

The axe cam into my possesion when he lived here. It was in poor shape. The electronics in it were very FUBARed because one main switch was broken in a way that disrupted the pickup feed. I did not restore it fully, but I did hardwire the switch, fix up the grounds and got alot more output and alot less hum out of it. I also worked on the neck.

If you work on guitars you know that does not mean I actually did anything to the neck. In fact in this that is the case, the neck was nice and there was no need to even adjust the tress bar. But on the other end there was a nice fully adjustable bridge. I got the action on this thing so fucking good that a two year old might be able to play a full F bar chord. It's an Ibanez and that neck is nice, very nice.

Of course I adjusted the pickup height as well, and at the top fret, it is hard to see between the pickups and thwe string, but the space is there, it still sustains just fine. I'm just not sure if you could slide a piece of paper in that space or not.

Whenever someone else plays that guitar who knows what they are doing they compliment the action on it. The only problem is that it hums. It is old, I have to turn off my minitor to get rid of most of the hum. There may still be a fault, but I don't know how much further I want to go unless and until I own it.

Really if he demands it I have to give it back. Hopefully money will fix that. But if he really has to have it I did him a favor, but then I have been using the thing for years. It is not the last guitar in the world.

I have another guitar of his, out on loan. I know that is bad business but if I have to pay for it so what. When it came to me the front of it was delineating frome the body, it was filthy, with about three strings left on it and the action sucked. It was a cheap acoustic guitar, classical style, which means it has a wider neck, and flatter. At least that is what I've been told. Anyway when the action is crappy it makes it almost impossible to play.

Well I got some strings and chopped down the bridge and the nut and got the action to where a normal human being could play it. Before you had to be superman. This after a buddy of mine spotted it and knowing guitars and stuff, offered to glue it back together. My thinking was, let him. The owner of the guitar would surely not object and this guy did a great job. Very neat, repainted some of the trim around but did not mess around with the ring around the hole. Not sure what they call that right now but it is really nothing but a decal.

Well it's half worn off and he left it alone. Said that's the character, or something to that effect. But the entire rest of the guitar was cleaned immaculately and nicelt polished and detailed.

I did not expect this, and when I let him take it to do this he did not know that I actually did not own it. I expectedhim to use his glue and fancy clamps andglue it together, because I did not even want to restring it in this condition. I was starting to envision the whole damn front coming off in my face. I expected no such restoration, but when he gave it back I decided to improve the action. I did. I actually dropped the strings on the nut side. Dropped them alot more on the bridge side, which is fixed on this one BTW.

It is still a bit hard to play, but it's alot better. And it is a large body piece and has a very nice tone, especially with the phosphor bronze strings my buddy put on it.

And my buddy who owns these guitars, he could probably not care less. He also owns an electro-acoustic which really isn't too bad overall, if not for the bic lighter serving as the bridge. He chose not to leave that one with me. Fine. But when he lived with me we got into an argument over it, not a bad argument but what it was, we went to the music store and bought a bunch of stuff, string, whatever and I was pricing and checking out MIDI keyboards, but did not find what I wanted. The Previa piano came alot later.

But at the time we bought a fully adjustable bridge for that guitar and then when he found out I needed to drill into it to install it he pretty much freaked.

Now I can understand that. We left the argument witrh the understanding that drilling was a nono. It is his guitar and his decision. I think the bridge is sitting in my bedroom somewhere. Apparently what he wants is a glued on fixed bridge, which is what it came with. What he does not understand is that to do that properly it takes some very accurate measuring instruments.

I could do it that way but what a pain. I'd have to get just the right height, and then string the whole thing with the bridge floating. You just don't want to know what a pain in the ass that is.

This dude's electric is bad enough ! And I am buying this MF. It has a whammy bar that goes both ways. In fact I am one of the few people who can actually tune it properly. Any drastic adjust ment affects all the other strings by moving the bridge. There's a PITA there, but once you get it right, it is worth it.

And now that I have a piano, all instruments must be in tune, really in tune.

And yes, learn to play. Know that it is called play. Why is that ?

Do you have to master the piano to enjoy playing it ? You can't enjoy finding the chords and making up some shit that sounds good ? Why not ? The same applies to any musical instrument actually.

It is all a matter of form vs function. Musical instruments were invented to make sound. I am grabbing one of these guitars as soon as I hit the OK button.

T




Alumbrado -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 1:32:33 PM)

You might want to check out the link on my sig file.




mefisto69 -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 2:30:52 PM)

if anyone wants to get rid of say - a 7 ft grand that is 'just furniture', i'll be more than happy to take the donation. i've just about crushed my latest - a 6' 2" Baldwin and don't want to spend the money to have it rebuilt again.




Evility -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 2:35:07 PM)

Art is in the eye of the beholder. My guitars adorn different spots in my home when I am not playing them.

What really bugs me is when people play air guita
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KatyLied -> RE: Musical Instrument Pet Heeves? (5/4/2008 3:21:00 PM)

quote:

Hendrix had to take massive drugs to pull that stunt off....


My kids are both musical and started out as teens playing with friends in the basement or  garage.  I was always grateful that I had a bassist/guitartist and a keyboard player.  Pity the parent who has the drummer, that's the garage with the most use.  And the parents most in need of medication.    [;)]




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