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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:20:20 PM   
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So you`re apologizing for all the "slick willie"name calling?
You`re apologies are accepted.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/burton090598.htm
Burton is one of the House's most conservative Republicans and, as chairman of the House committee that has been investigating campaign finance abuses, one of Clinton's most dogged pursuers. In April, he called the president "a scumbag" and said that was why he was "out to get" Clinton.
Burton began his statement acknowledging his out-of-wedlock child by referring to his role in the campaign fund-raising investigation, which he said had brought him "under attack from people inside and outside the Clinton administration. I was prepared for this, and I made a promise to the American people that I would never allow these attacks to deter my efforts to uncover the truth."


Actually, I'm not apologizing for anything. I can't imagine how you read that into my first post.

I don't apologize, because I never called Clinton "slick willy." I think that attacking a name, as a last resort to anything else 'un-attackable' is lame. If you want to call a guy's ideas lame or say he has no clue, grand. But at least say something useful. Simply making fun of a name, when that's all you've got, is just embarassing. People need to grow up.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:25:40 PM   
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Wow.  As a Dem, I have much worse nightmares! 

Not about McCain mind you ... what if Bush set up some kind of national crisis and made some law that said he would be our president until he decided otherwise?

I'm not afraid of McCain.  I'm not even slightly worried that he will win.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:28:53 PM   
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I think that attacking a name, as a last resort to anything else 'un-attackable' is lame. If you want to call a guy's ideas lame or say he has no clue, grand. But at least say something useful. Simply making fun of a name, when that's all you've got, is just embarassing. People need to grow up.



One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite quote-makers addresses this -
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."   Elbert Hubbard

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:30:04 PM   
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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:32:31 PM   
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what if Bush set up some kind of national crisis and made some law that said he would be our president until he decided otherwise?


That would require suspending the Constitution.  It's never impossible, but, barring some Jericho-style consipiracy, I don't see it happening.


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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 3:44:37 PM   
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I think that attacking a name, as a last resort to anything else 'un-attackable' is lame. If you want to call a guy's ideas lame or say he has no clue, grand. But at least say something useful. Simply making fun of a name, when that's all you've got, is just embarassing. People need to grow up.



One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite quote-makers addresses this -
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."   Elbert Hubbard


Heh. I like that. In this election, I let *my* candidate answer his opponent's arguments.....and quite well, I might add. I stick to calling her a gash simply because I don't like her and think she has no business in the race. Therefore, everyone wins. I can't remember a time when I disliked a candidate as much as I do Hillary.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 4:00:42 PM   
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I think that attacking a name, as a last resort to anything else 'un-attackable' is lame. If you want to call a guy's ideas lame or say he has no clue, grand. But at least say something useful. Simply making fun of a name, when that's all you've got, is just embarassing. People need to grow up.



One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite quote-makers addresses this -
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."   Elbert Hubbard


Heh. I like that. In this election, I let *my* candidate answer his opponent's arguments.....and quite well, I might add. I stick to calling her a gash simply because I don't like her and think she has no business in the race. Therefore, everyone wins. I can't remember a time when I disliked a candidate as much as I do Hillary.



I would guess anyone with an ounce of sense might think that the last Republican candidate was really, really despicable.


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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 6:02:50 PM   
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what if Bush set up some kind of national crisis and made some law that said he would be our president until he decided otherwise?


That would require suspending the Constitution.  It's never impossible, but, barring some Jericho-style consipiracy, I don't see it happening.



What Constitutional Limit on Government Authority has Bush respected yet? He Lies, He spies, He tortures, what else does it take?



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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 6:09:15 PM   
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I would guess anyone with an ounce of sense might think that the last Republican candidate was really, really despicable.



Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Bush ain't a potato-head. But if you're going to take shots, take SHOTS. Don't do the schoolyard BS making 'cute' lil insults out of his name. Come up with something with some substance.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 6:27:15 PM   
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What Constitutional Limit on Government Authority has Bush respected yet? He Lies, He spies, He tortures, what else does it take?


Without disputing the substance of what you say, it goes without saying Bush and the neocons would interpret their actions differently.

However, Bush's last term in office ends 21 January 2009.  The election is slated for November 2nd.  So long as civilian authority is in command in this country, even Bush can't alter that timetable.

Martial law, a suspension of the Constitution, a cancelling of the election--that's what it would take for Bush to stick around.  Even if we assume he has the inclination, it's a reach to assume he'd have the support of even the rest of the neocons for something that drastic.

In the end, it's less about him respecting Constitutional authority and more about him lacking the personal power to disrespect Constitutional authority to that extreme.


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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/17/2008 7:32:15 PM   
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Wow.  As a Dem, I have much worse nightmares! 

Not about McCain mind you ... what if Bush set up some kind of national crisis and made some law that said he would be our president until he decided otherwise?

I'm not afraid of McCain.  I'm not even slightly worried that he will win.




Little late I am afraid.  They already have everything in place.  One dirty bomb or any big incident and ita martial law time!





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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 3:56:01 AM   
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What Constitutional Limit on Government Authority has Bush respected yet? He Lies, He spies, He tortures, what else does it take?


Without disputing the substance of what you say, it goes without saying Bush and the neocons would interpret their actions differently.


That's because they are dissociated from reality.

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In the end, it's less about him respecting Constitutional authority and more about him lacking the personal power to disrespect Constitutional authority to that extreme.


Do you know how OATHS and LAWS work?

Why does the DOJ prosecute Eliot Spitzer and not George Bush?

Why is Marion Jones in prison and not George Bush?

*right now* the Loyal Bushies couldn't soil the Constitution any more. They are above the law, and their attitude is "Fuck You -- You aren't Above the Law, so we're going to us it against you".




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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 6:16:18 AM   
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Do you know how OATHS and LAWS work?


I know them very well.  I also know not to let personal hatreds distort my judgement.

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Why does the DOJ prosecute Eliot Spitzer and not George Bush?


So far, they have prosecuted neither. 


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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 9:49:24 AM   
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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 9:54:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Smith117

I think that attacking a name, as a last resort to anything else 'un-attackable' is lame. If you want to call a guy's ideas lame or say he has no clue, grand. But at least say something useful. Simply making fun of a name, when that's all you've got, is just embarassing. People need to grow up.



One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite quote-makers addresses this -
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."   Elbert Hubbard


Heh. I like that. In this election, I let *my* candidate answer his opponent's arguments.....and quite well, I might add. I stick to calling her a gash simply because I don't like her and think she has no business in the race. Therefore, everyone wins. I can't remember a time when I disliked a candidate as much as I do Hillary.



....and they say irony is dead.......

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 9:56:24 AM   
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Oops...  Thought it said DOMS worst nightmare...

Breathes again.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 9:57:02 AM   
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I only wish people would start thinking in terms of rescuing this country out of the shit it's in, instead of playing petty partisan politics. But the competitive spirit seems to win over everything, even common sense.

I find all the cheerleading really, really sad.

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 9:58:44 AM   
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I only wish people would start thinking in terms of rescuing this country out of the shit it's in, instead of playing petty partisan politics. But the competitive spirit seems to win over everything, even common sense.

I find all the cheerleading really, really sad.


........its the old competition/co-operation dichotomy. Problem for some in the USA is that co-operation is dangerously close to socialism.......

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 10:03:01 AM   
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........its the old competition/co-operation dichotomy. Problem for some in the USA is that co-operation is dangerously close to socialism.......



Or it's seen as such. I think they should change the way they bring their kids up, because that's where the problem stems from. Competition at all cost brings nothing but useless trumpetting ('We're the best, fuck you') and crappy loosing ('They won cos they cheated, fuck them').

But... that's the way they like things, I guess  .

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RE: Dems worst nightmare - 3/18/2008 10:24:11 AM   
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Yeah...

Because the "all are equal" group philosophy worked so well for the Soviets and continues to work well for North Korea and Cuba.

Long live socialism!

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