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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/1/2008 5:50:24 PM   
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never mind... i should have run a search on this kidlet thing sooner   Post 62 explains it. 


http://www.collarchat.com/m_1592863/mpage_4/key_/tm.htm#1593851

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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/1/2008 7:27:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
I don't perceive such a problem. I've not been made aware of such a problem and besides that's what moderators are for, it's nobody else’s job is it?


It's no one elses job, but it's our responsibility when we sign up that we agree to the terms.  So my question is - are the terms so unclear and do they need updating or why do people tick the yes box, not knowing the terms?  These are people I see regularly saying that communication rocks and that you shouldnt agree to getting into something your not willing to follow through on, and yet...
 
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You are assuming they actually read anything, you are assuming they are capable of comprehending what they read. You are assuming they believe the rules apply to them/  etc etc


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 12:21:11 AM   
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Personally, I think we should kiss and make up have a giant orgy now.

(I'll be the one in the corner, videotaping the whole thing).

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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 2:03:51 AM   
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Most TOS are written in such way, that if you just behave, you will never be in problems.

(other side is....they are written in such way..that nobody wants to read them..unclear....boring..etc)


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 2:41:11 AM   
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I think Darcyandthedark is quite correct, there are rules for us to follow. Following these rules helps us all by allowing us all to continue using this site. I for one do not wish this site to be taken down for continuous breaks of rules. Rules I may add that ensure the continued operation of a site like this in a world full of not so open minded people and I bet there is loads of people who would like to maliciously police the internet and remove what they do not agree with, some authorities perhaps.

But I also agree that TOS is not always clear, I have done it, posted something and been jumped on, received the gold letter from the venerable mod 11. I know there are biggy things not to be done, I am constantly aware of these, but some of the finer points often elude. Fair cop if I get pounced on,but what I would appreciate is to be told what misdemeanor I have done, i.e. the line of TOS I have contravened, only then may I learn, instead of thinking wtf, oh perhaps the moderator has had a bad day at the office, or I am victim of the day etc.

Perhaps we should all work together on this to ensure our continued enjoyment of this site.


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 2:56:11 AM   
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quote:

Perhaps we should all work together on this to ensure our continued enjoyment of this site.


that is the TOS in short ;)


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 10:42:47 AM   
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You could argue that horse bolted with the creation of this very thread. Cause and effect bla bla etc.

I don't perceive such a problem. I've not been made aware of such a problem and besides that's what moderators are for, it's nobody else’s job is it?



This has probably been addressed, and irregardless, may just be my personal opinion only.  It's everyone's "job".  That is why the boards are not as heavily moderated as others.  The moderators here are volunteers, so therefore is a "labor of love" for the site.  It makes their "jobs" easier, and the boards more enjoyable, when users use that little button marked report.  That is part of the problem in my opinion...."I'll say what I want to, and when and if I do get spanked by a moderator, then I'll scream ignorance and/or innocence and/or unfair discriminatory treatment, in the meantime,  I will do as I damn well please, catch me if you can.  What I have to say is so important, and/or my thoughts are so valuable, and/or I just want to have the last word to feel better than user x that pissed me off, that I'm doing it anyway". 

edited to add:  The moderators are humans, and again, volunteers.  They do at times, *gasp* do other things than watch the boards 24/7.  They sleep, they work, they actually might leave their computers at other times to live life away from the site *again gasps*.  The report button helps them when they get back to the screen to put out the "Big Fires" first.

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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 12:26:46 PM   
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Different boards have different rules. If you read the rules three years ago when you first joined, then it's easy to forget an odd rule this site has that another alternative sexuality board doesn't have. That's when the mods come in handy, they remove the post and email the member clarifying the problem and then that person doesn't do it again.



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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 12:34:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Different boards have different rules. If you read the rules three years ago when you first joined, then it's easy to forget an odd rule this site has that another alternative sexuality board doesn't have. That's when the mods come in handy, they remove the post and email the member clarifying the problem and then that person doesn't do it again.




agree..and to me this seems a very light modded forum (or perhaps it is just not needed). A lot can be said.  It is pleasant to be here in general.



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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 12:48:22 PM   
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The interesting question for me is why topics about moderation are the most successful topics? You can also guess what everyone is going to say because the same people turn up and say the same thing over and over. This has become one of those debates about hypothetical rule breaking because the op refused to state what particular rule they thought had been broken leaving everyone to guess what rule.

The reason people call each other names is separate from the reason people propose risqué topics. I might start a topic entitled what is wrong with my foot then some people can answer telling me I need to get odour eaters and some people can answer telling me how to avoid in growing toenails from proper clipping.


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 12:52:51 PM   
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Dunno why you care so much about what rule was broken to be honest

On another note I do think, having read them having the TOS being a little clearer and concise may help, I figure i have never broke a rule but it was so longwinded i may be breaking one right now for all i know


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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 1:08:35 PM   
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Not sure what rule was broken here either.  But I will add that with the exception for discussions which hit the illegal topics of beastiality, pedo, necro, ect, that if you post something it is with the intent for feedback. 
If people don't agree, they can move on.  <g> I got blasted for having an opinion the other day and it was no biggie.  If I ask for an opinion I may not like the answer but I am adult enough to accept that everyone has their right to think the way they wish.  Were I to focus on some member as having ideas that just don't jell with my own, that would be giving forums too much power over me.  I figure if you are adult enough to be doing this, you should be adult enough to make your own choices on what works in your world, my opinion should only matter if "I" matter to you.
I haven't really seen to many topics posted that ignore the rules of TOS, but that may be because I only open the thread if the title is appealing.  I don't live or die by what I read.
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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 1:25:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
I haven't really seen to many topics posted that ignore the rules of TOS, but that may be because I only open the thread if the title is appealing.  I don't live or die by what I read.
Kyst


Well, the threads and questions that provoked my thought last night to post this thread were gone this morning, because the mods must have pulled them.  They seem to be good at pulling and that isn't the question I asked -  My question is why people who post ignore the TOS and post on threads that aren't allowed.
 
On a general reply, this thread isn't about bitchiness or disagreements, but about posting threads and continuing threads that are posted that are against TOS - sofar only one person has answered with their reasons and understood what I was asking (thanks Em bigly).  If I had meant this thread to be about personal vendettas, I would have marked it as such - which would have been ironic in itself .  I didn't - it was about questions that break TOS - as I asked in the OP.
 
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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 1:28:02 PM   
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Heh... those mods are quick.  They must pop in like shoe elves while I am offline.
I can just picture Moderator 11, in pointy shoes and a hat.
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark


Well, the threads and questions that provoked my thought last night to post this thread were gone this morning, because the mods must have pulled them.  They seem to be good at pulling and that isn't the question

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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 6:13:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
What is it with people who visit this message board frequently and who still either refuse to adhere to, or don't know the TOS?  Is it because " you might be submissive, but you only submit to *insertlabelhere* "  or is it because you are dominant and you feel above the TOS?
 

 
I am SHOCKED.... I would think you could of figured out the answer to this question...
 
 
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RE: Following BDSM Site Guidelines. - 3/2/2008 6:46:54 PM   
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the.dark.

i can only speak for myself when saying that when i came here there were certain things such as the UM thing....it seemed like the accepted way to express something so i went with it because seasoned posters were using it etc.

i know you brought it to my attention about a month ago with the UM usage in a thread and i really hadn't considerd for a second that i was doing anything wrong because the content of the discussion wasn't anything that would be illegal or"bad" and because when i came on i adopted the "when in Rome" concept and did what seemed acceptable.

Also, not for nothing, but definitions on this site and most likely in the worldat large seem to be pretty open to interpretaion by people so ist shouldn't be surprising that people read the TOS and may not "hear" it the  way it was intended.




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