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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 3:54:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

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If you were a master, you would know before you even started.


Sometimes I dance for me, and then is when I devour the pain like a starving woman at an all you can eat bar.
Sometimes I dance for Him and then is when I accept the pain as the thirsty earth drinks the rain.
Sometimes I dance for Us, and the music is heavy, tortured and perfect.
Master will never know which dance I do, without asking. I will never know which he does without asking. We only know that we dance. We cannot read minds.

poenkitten


poenkitten,

what a wonderful poetic reply. I am deeply touched by your words and description - beautiful.


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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 3:58:05 PM   
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Even better when both are cognizant:-). And some poems describe reality rather well. Read some Haikus for example.

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 6:52:40 PM   
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Damn, if you don't know, you don't deserve her

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 7:17:53 PM   
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That is exactly how I read the OP, WingedSnake, more like he was in awe of the moment they have shared. Since I had to insert my own internal voice, and experiences- untill more information is posted (if any)that is how I am going to take the post.

I was once of the school that a Master had to be all knowing, completely confident, taking baby steps and nursing things along, "better leave them wanting more, than taking them to far... I am no longer of that school, when I realized it was my own insecurity and self doubt that kept me from crossing that "boundary". Plus, It is hard to do the edgy stuff with a baby step mentality- it's no fun using a blunt knife or cold brand - rather pointless IMO.

To the OP. I find that emotions make us all do things we normally would not, but our enjoyment of those things is what brought us there to begin with.

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 7:34:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WingedSnake


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

If you were a master, you would know before you even started.


Not necessarily. No master is all-knowing.

However, asking these questions here will not give him the answers he needs




That is most certainly wrong. In asking here this question and considering the answers, he can tap into his knowledge about her. That is the way i read his question anyway, as a question he suddenly asked himself, did i gone too far, did she really wanted it, will our relationship be the same when she awakes, doubts and self questioning are the abilities of somebody who is mastering, his/herself and others.

Ruth


I have to agree.  I had a situation like this once.  I had my girl go much farther than I really ever expected her to go.  Keep in mind that she had done these things to herself and we were playing online.  I had asked her of her situation to make sure she had help when things were over and she assured me she did.  She was so lost in play that she was unaware that her friend was off to bed and she was quite a mess when we were done.  I barely got her to bed and did what I could to assure that she was safely tucked in for the night.  I got off the computer and was in tears the whole night wondering if she was okay, if she was hurt (in the bad way), if she was going to be furious with me in the morning.  It took most of the morning for her to wake up and get online.  I jumped right on and asked if she was okay and before I could get it typed I received, "Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!"  I was so relieved!  Her tortured little nipple was sore, but she enjoyed her night with me.  It could have easily gone the other way, I suppose, but the fact is questioning does not make one a poor dominant, just a caring one.

I guess no one will know until she wakes up and she is in the right frame of mind for you to talk through it with her.  She is sleeping and you are guarding over her so that is a good start.

Best Wishes,
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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 8:08:32 PM   
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I just pushed my little one very far. further than I thought she would go,

she is now asleep.

I hurt her a lot when she was awake.

the question is, is she doing it all cos she loves me? or because she really really likes it? she just wanted a cuddle?



you were feeling guilty when you wrote this.  Maybe you should question your motivation before you question hers.  Wondering why on earth she would come with you to the dark place?  What could she get out of meeting you there?  What was she like when she was there?  In tears?  Thankful?  Happy?  Fighting you every step of the way?  If you want to know why she is there - I'd say look at her reaction while she is there.  Analyze that. 

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 8:34:08 PM   
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Yes, I agree with all of the others that say you should ask her.  Make no mistake that is My first comment to you.

Still, the question for the sake of discussion is a good one.  The answers do vary, of course, from sub to sub.  In My boy's case, I am of the very strong opinion that he does love Me because I hurt him.  That has helped to strengthen our bond.  The intensity of wiitwd is amazing.  That being said, he also loves Me because I am also the one who takes the pain away.  (Check for the onion factor there, because that statement has a lot of layers.)

For emphasis, I'd like to throw this comment in.  My boy and I were playing a couple of months or so back.  It was a harsh scene, even for a maso, and My sub certainly fits the definition.  I had been flogging him, caning him, pulled out the quirt, (you get the idea) and then I decided that on top of that, it was time to do a little torture time with clothespins.  I'd applied quite a number to his cock and balls.  The boy looked like a porcupine.  Then I placed one in just the right spot, and it seemed it would be the straw to break the camel's back.  His breathing started coming in a short panting rythym.  Under great strain, he said, "I can't do it.  I can't do it, m'Lady."  I put My had to his cheek and whispered, "Do it for Me, lil one."  His breathing calmed and his body relaxed.  The point of this being, because he was doing it for Me, he knew he could push himself, that I could push him, farther than he thought he could go.



as a sub that takes my share and a little more... this spoke volumes about me, and made my breathing alter. delicious and delightful LadyPact, thank you for sharing.

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 9:35:28 PM   
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I have to wonder, once again!!!..what happened to the OP?..and what transpired when she woke up??..ach! I just hate not knowing an outcome..grrrrr.Tempting

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RE: The dark place - 2/20/2008 9:43:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DisenchantedLife

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ORIGINAL: Hauptmann

I just pushed my little one very far. further than I thought she would go,

she is now asleep.

I hurt her a lot when she was awake.

the question is, is she doing it all cos she loves me? or because she really really likes it? she just wanted a cuddle?



you were feeling guilty when you wrote this.  Maybe you should question your motivation before you question hers.  Wondering why on earth she would come with you to the dark place?  What could she get out of meeting you there?  What was she like when she was there?  In tears?  Thankful?  Happy?  Fighting you every step of the way?  If you want to know why she is there - I'd say look at her reaction while she is there.  Analyze that. 

THAT...all of IT was wonderful, and right on....


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RE: The dark place - 2/26/2008 1:01:25 PM   
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as a sub that takes my share and a little more... this spoke volumes about me, and made my breathing alter. delicious and delightful LadyPact, thank you for sharing.

You're quite welcome.  I always enjoy sharing things from My experiences.  It's even better when someone enjoys reading them.


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