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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Popeye, lots of people don't think like that, they are just Indians, it's usually an intregal part of thier world view.  Spain, Ukraine, same place, just Europeons you know...  Tibet, Cambodia, just Asians.

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Popeye, lots of people don't think like that, they are just Indians, it's usually an intregal part of thier world view.  Spain, Ukraine, same place, just Europeons you know...  Tibet, Cambodia, just Asians.

You're wrong. the majority of Mexicans are indigenous to the Americas, Europeans aren't and anyway, as I pointed out to popeye and though you might disagree, most Mexicans don't, you stole California from Mexico which on another level gives them a moral right to it.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Popeye, lots of people don't think like that, they are just Indians, it's usually an intregal part of thier world view.  Spain, Ukraine, same place, just Europeons you know...  Tibet, Cambodia, just Asians.

You're wrong. the majority of Mexicans are indigenous to the Americas, Europeans aren't and anyway, as I pointed out to popeye and though you might disagree, most Mexicans don't, you stole California from Mexico which on another level gives them a moral right to it.

Meat, you missed the point old Bean.
How could they have gotten into the U.S. if the two fiercest Tribes of Indians, the Apaches and the Navajos oh, and I forgot, the Commanches controlled all that land?
Any Aztecs or Mayans would have been short work indeed for those Tribes.
They killed a lot of U.S. soldiers armed with firearms and they using bow and arrow!
In those days if you tresspassed, you died!
If any Mayan or Aztec Indians had made it up as far as the Rio Grande they'd have been slaughtered.
"Mayan" or "Aztec" are not part of any documented U.S. Indian tribes. They were 1,000 to 1,500 miles to the South.
Also, I think it was on National Geographic Channel, they did a study of ancient Indian bones that had been dug up.
Fourty percent of those bones had "Celtic" DNA in them!
That's an interesting figure! They did they same type of study in Iceland and found that, ...40% of the specimins contained "Celtic" DNA.
So your contention that "Europeans" aren't indiginous to N. America doesn't hold water.
In the town where I lived in Hampton,  New Hampshire they found Viking artifacts carbon dated to 1,000 years ago.
They named the street where they found them, "Viking Road."
Christopher Columbus wasn't the first European in "the new world" by a long shot!
We don't have a lot of "documented" history to tell us what happened in Europe before B.C. so who's to say but DNA doesn't lie!
You don't know your Indian Tribes.
Also, we won that land in a war.
Are you proposing that we give Germany back to the Nazis?

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Popeye, lots of people don't think like that, they are just Indians, it's usually an intregal part of thier world view.  Spain, Ukraine, same place, just Europeons you know...  Tibet, Cambodia, just Asians.

You're wrong. the majority of Mexicans are indigenous to the Americas, Europeans aren't and anyway, as I pointed out to popeye and though you might disagree, most Mexicans don't, you stole California from Mexico which on another level gives them a moral right to it.

Meat, you missed the point old Bean.
How could they have gotten into the U.S. if the two fiercest Tribes of Indians, the Apaches and the Navajos oh, and I forgot, the Commanches controlled all that land?
Any Aztecs or Mayans would have been short work indeed for those Tribes.
They killed a lot of U.S. soldiers armed with firearms and they using bow and arrow!
In those days if you tresspassed, you died!
If any Mayan or Aztec Indians had made it up as far as the Rio Grande they'd have been slaughtered.
"Mayan" or "Aztec" are not part of any documented U.S. Indian tribes. They were 1,000 to 1,500 miles to the South.
Also, I think it was on National Geographic Channel, they did a study of ancient Indian bones that had been dug up.
Fourty percent of those bones had "Celtic" DNA in them!
That's an interesting figure! They did they same type of study in Iceland and found that, ...40% of the specimins contained "Celtic" DNA.
So your contention that "Europeans" aren't indiginous to N. America doesn't hold water.
In the town where I lived in Hampton,  New Hampshire they found Viking artifacts carbon dated to 1,000 years ago.
They named the street where they found them, "Viking Road."
Christopher Columbus wasn't the first European in "the new world" by a long shot!
We don't have a lot of "documented" history to tell us what happened in Europe before B.C. so who's to say but DNA doesn't lie!
You don't know your Indian Tribes.
Also, we won that land in a war.
Are you proposing that we give Germany back to the Nazis?

You're just adding to my point popeye, one can talk about the moral right to own land but in reality it is who occupies the land that counts and let's be honest here, the USA is fast having areas that are majority Spanish speaking with people with recent ties to other American cultures. If they decide they want to have closer ties with countries to the south, there may be little washington can do about it, the pure weight of numbers might decide it, just like the pure weight of numbers of Euriopeans swamped and killed off most native American tribes.