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Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by 2029 - 2/18/2008 6:15:50 AM   
cyberdude611


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Status: offline 		An American engineer attending the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Boston this weekend said that by the year 2029, computers will have intelligence equal to the human brain. And that we will one day have mini-robots in our bodies fighting disease and interacting with our neurons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7248875.stm
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 6:27:25 AM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 6:31:26 AM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 6:32:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		From what I can gauge, many machines already have more intelligence than many humans. My toaster is brainier than a quarter of my compatriots I'd estimate - and thats when its not plugged in.

Nano-bots interacting with our neurons? I foresee a future where the war on drugs is a fond memory.

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 6:34:58 AM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 7:21:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't pay too much attention if I were you, its not difficult to find web sites demonstrating that "expert" prognosticators are frequently wrong.
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001558.html
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2. A model that used past criminal and prison records was more reliable than expert criminologists in predicting criminal recidivism
(Carroll 1982).
Training of large numbers of experts by universities has probably had the perverse effect of increasing the number of people running around making highly confident but wrong judgements

Global warming enthusiasts pay particulat attention to the 2nd paragraph.

I well remember looking at the bones in my feet when X ray machines were available because  "experts" had concluded that X rays were not dangerous

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 11:00:17 AM   
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I well remember looking at the bones in my feet when X ray machines were available because  "experts" had concluded that X rays were not dangerous

Wow, you're like what 110 years old? Doctors have known x-rays were potentially harmful since at least 1908 when John Hall-Edwards lost an arm due to x-ray exposure.

I'm sorry for a few of the things I said about you in the past I was unaware you were over 100.

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 11:31:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: samboct

If there's going to be artificial intelligence, there must be artificial stupidity.


yeh but will they be good in bed thats my question!!


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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 12:35:19 PM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 1:43:21 PM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 3:37:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		So is AI going to catch up with human intelligence or is human intelligence going to drop to the point where it is equal to AI ? They didn't mention that.

And artificial stupidity, there is a website for that. It's the 'other' NASA. I think it's National Artificial Stupidity Association or something like that. It is satirical in nature, but some of it is a decent read.

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 4:41:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
I well remember looking at the bones in my feet when X ray machines were available because  "experts" had concluded that X rays were not dangerous

Wow, you're like what 110 years old? Doctors have known x-rays were potentially harmful since at least 1908 when John Hall-Edwards lost an arm due to x-ray exposure.

I'm sorry for a few of the things I said about you in the past I was unaware you were over 100.


FYI

http://www.museumofquackery.com/devices/shoexray.htm

"In the late 1940's and early 1950's, the shoe-fitting x-ray unit was a common shoe store sales promotion device and nearly all stores had one. . . The radiation hazards associated with shoe fitting x-ray units were recognized as early as 1950."



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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 4:42:49 PM   
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It's the 'other' NASA. I think it's National Artificial Stupidity Association or something like that.





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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 4:59:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

An American engineer attending the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Boston this weekend said that by the year 2029, computers will have intelligence equal to the human brain. And that we will one day have mini-robots in our bodies fighting disease and interacting with our neurons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7248875.stm


Based on some of the people I've hired over the last 25 years...I'd say we've already reached equality.

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 5:01:51 PM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 5:01:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice one carlie you beat me to it.
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htmhttp://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm
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By the early 1950s, a number of professional organizations had issued warnings about the continued use of shoe-fitting fluoroscopes,
In 1957 the State of Pennsylvania became the first jurisdiction to ban the use of shoe fitting fluoroscopes.


DomKen is the kind of expert we need to worry about. He has some facts at his fingertips but he gets hopelessly muddled when he tries to draw general conclusions from them.

In this case he did come up with a good reference tho' Hall-Edwards.
The machines were introduced in the late 30's

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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 5:54:33 PM   
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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 5:57:36 PM   
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Nice one carlie you beat me to it.
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htmhttp://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm
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By the early 1950s, a number of professional organizations had issued warnings about the continued use of shoe-fitting fluoroscopes,
In 1957 the State of Pennsylvania became the first jurisdiction to ban the use of shoe fitting fluoroscopes.


I got a perv and a public thumbs up. . .life is sweet for the next 10 minutes!



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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 11:26:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Nice one carlie you beat me to it.
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htmhttp://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm
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By the early 1950s, a number of professional organizations had issued warnings about the continued use of shoe-fitting fluoroscopes,
In 1957 the State of Pennsylvania became the first jurisdiction to ban the use of shoe fitting fluoroscopes.


DomKen is the kind of expert we need to worry about. He has some facts at his fingertips but he gets hopelessly muddled when he tries to draw general conclusions from them.

In this case he did come up with a good reference tho' Hall-Edwards.
The machines were introduced in the late 30's

Your link is fouled up.

I will however point out the error you've made. You claimed "experts" had concluded that x-rays were harmless. Which of course is wrong as I pointed out by showing that one of the formost early experts lost his arm to radiation damage that he correctly blamed on x-ray exposure. That some collection of shoe salesmen decided to use them for a dangerous practice at a later time does not mean the actual experts had concluded x-rays were harmless it just means that idiots who didn't listen to the actual experts built devices that endangered others. So yet another of your attempts to attack science and knowledge is shown to be at best wild exageration and at worst utterly untrue.


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RE: Engineer: Machines will match human intelligence by... - 2/18/2008 11:30:29 PM   
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