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Arrrchibald -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 5:43:46 PM)

No.




HerLord -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 5:46:44 PM)

Succinctly concise.
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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ORIGINAL: firmbutloving27

i want some opionions here on a dom and his sub.
some doms feel you have to be abusive to a sub to have her respect you. i diasagree and feel that you still can be firm and authoratative
when you need to and still love and pamper your sub as both are needed on a regular basis.
how do you feel about this



Let's baseline some terminology:  Abuse is destructive behavior that erodes a person's self-esteem.  Discipline, however harsh, builds a person's self esteem.

A dominant must respect his own authority enough to enforce it with the slave, or else the slave will not respect him.  That much is most assuredly true.  As such, yes, a dominant must discipline the slave as needed.

Abusing a slave fosters not respect but fear tinged with loathing.  Speaking for myself, I wish my slave to serve me joyously, not fearfully.

There are dominants who abuse their slaves.  Such dominants do not have my respect, nor do I imagine they have that of their slaves.





mbes -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 6:11:13 PM)

~~fr~~
Abuse me, and I'm gone.




DesFIP -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 7:33:59 PM)

I tend to separate dominance from sadism and submission from masochist. Of course since we're not into s & m that's an easy distinction for me to make.

As far as being a romantic partner, sure you can. With a person who likes and needs that also. Some do, some don't.

Anything you can imagine, there are others who do it too.




SailingBum -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 8:15:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: firmbutloving27

i want some opionions here on a dom and his sub.
some doms feel you have to be abusive to a sub to have her respect you. i diasagree and feel that you still can be firm and authoratative
when you need to and still love and pamper your sub as both are needed on a regular basis.
how do you feel about this



I have met a lot of subs and doms over the years and I have never heard those words uttered.  I have heard of subs being abused but not because the dom wanted their respect.  If your being abused leave.

BadOne




Gwynvyd -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 9:32:38 PM)

Firstly abuse is highly subjective. In WIITWD that means non consentual, and oft times emotional abuse coupled with it.

Being a Dom/me does  not mean you have to be an asshat to *make* subs follow you. You lead by a good example, have *your* shit together and people will look up to you, and wish to be near you. Simple as that. As MasterFireMa'am said Lead with Fear and you are looking at mutiny. Lead by example.. and you will have loyal followers. No one likes nor follows an asshole for long.

It is the same with training animals. If you "break" a horse it will always remember.. and never fully trust you. If you have a partnership with the horse and you learn together naturaly.... you can both trust each others judgement. Slaves and submissives do not need to be broken any more then horses need to be.

Gwyn




KindLadyGrey -> RE: does a dom have to be abbusive to his sub (2/17/2008 10:31:46 PM)

You gotta have a strong pimp hand to be a Dom in this world [8D]


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