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ORIGINAL: SilentTigresss

Now that i've been back on this site more than not lately, i have noticed something in profiles that i am curious about. What i've noticed was that "they" (keeping it somewhat generic) are looking for "sub/slaves". Is it the idea of just not being specific in what you seek, is there no longer a difference in the two, or well... what is it?

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

I had a difficult time trying to decide if I should label myself as a sub or a slave. I had more than a few long discussions about this with my master. I ended up calling myself a slave because... um...
My master had a good explanation to why I'm a slave, but I tend to forget all the good explanations he has as soon as I''ve decided that he's right. Which is most of the time. ;)
So, you'd have to ask him.

I wouldn't pay much attention to weather someone is seeking a sub or a slave if I was looking for a relatioship. There's so many definations to the terms and it's hard to know what the other person meens if you don't know them.

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

Because my master tells me so. :)

I think it's because I get my kicks from serving and pleasing him as much as I can. I don't have any particular kinks, I tend to like whatever pleases my Master.

He had a much longer and better explanation though, I can ask him to post it.

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

Because my master tells me so. :)

I think it's because I get my kicks from serving and pleasing him as much as I can. I don't have any particular kinks, I tend to like whatever pleases my Master.

He had a much longer and better explanation though, I can ask him to post it.

lol ofcourse you have to listen to your Master, but I don't think a MAster decides if you are sub or slave. But hell..who am I ;)

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

Because my master tells me so. :)

I think it's because I get my kicks from serving and pleasing him as much as I can. I don't have any particular kinks, I tend to like whatever pleases my Master.

He had a much longer and better explanation though, I can ask him to post it.

lol ofcourse you have to listen to your Master, but I don't think a MAster decides if you are sub or slave. But hell..who am I ;)

Well, really, he didn't say that I have to call myself a slave, but he did make very good points about why he thinks I am one. I ended up agreeing with him. So it's not really because I'm so obedient (that's why there's the smiley there), it's just that talking with him cleared the whole consept in my mind and I ended up agreeing with him.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

One person's sub is another's slave. You can be a slave in one relationship yet a sub in another. You can start in a relationship as a bottom, move to sub after trust and sufficient commonalities are found. You could move to slave if you feel that more appropriate with that certain someone.

Or you could be a slave in one relationship and a dominant in another. There is no hard and fast rules that apply to the human heart.

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

Because my master tells me so. :)

I think it's because I get my kicks from serving and pleasing him as much as I can. I don't have any particular kinks, I tend to like whatever pleases my Master.

He had a much longer and better explanation though, I can ask him to post it.

lol  ofcourse you have to listen to your Master, but I don't think a MAster decides if you are sub or slave. But hell..who am I ;)

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ORIGINAL: SilentTigresss

julia,  i will finally say it; i do enjoy your posts.
Thank you.

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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

Who needs definitions? I just make them up to suit my purposes if I am asked to define what a certain woman is. A woman may need to be defined and I will give her what I think is best to reach my goal, whatever that may be. Definitions are nebulous free spirits and shouldn’t be locked into anyone’s view. I’ll use my poetic license to free them. I’ll give her a name that presents her in a good light, no matter what she does or what outlandish fetish she may have. By her acts after she has accepted my definition she is going to define herself. For instance, she can become a beautiful woman to me and to herself because she loves me. Simple... strokes my ego and hers. 

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: kuuntuli

Because my master tells me so. :)

I think it's because I get my kicks from serving and pleasing him as much as I can. I don't have any particular kinks, I tend to like whatever pleases my Master.

He had a much longer and better explanation though, I can ask him to post it.

lol  ofcourse you have to listen to your Master, but I don't think a MAster decides if you are sub or slave. But hell..who am I ;)

To be honest, I do not like the term "slave" because of the historical connotations behind it. I could fit most people's definition, and I would still not like the term. I submit to pretty much anything he decides he wants me to submit to. I do not voice objections even when tempted to. I suppose I consider myself as limitless as anyone else I have seen posting on this site (although I know I have limits)... just do not like the term. If he wanted to call me his slave, I wouldn't argue with that either.

He can call me whatever he wants to call me. In fact in my mind there can be no better reason for labeling oneself a slave than their D-type wants them to call them that.

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ORIGINAL: Justme696
Defintions and the discussion about the use of them is difficult.
IS a car a car...or a motercycle with 2 extra tires?
Definitions are not always just to put peopel in boxes. It makes it sometimes (sure not always as we see) eassier to know what we talk about.

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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

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ORIGINAL: Justme696
Defintions and the discussion about the use of them is difficult.
IS a car a car...or a motercycle with 2 extra tires?
Definitions are not always just to put peopel in boxes. It makes it sometimes (sure not always as we see) eassier to know what we talk about.

Oh, I know and we've had this discussion many times with what you said usually being the consensus. Still I wanted to put a twist on it and give us something to think about that may be close to the truth of what actually happens.  

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

One person's sub is another's slave. You can be a slave in one relationship yet a sub in another. You can start in a relationship as a bottom, move to sub after trust and sufficient commonalities are found. You could move to slave if you feel that more appropriate with that certain someone.

Or you could be a slave in one relationship and a dominant in another. There is no hard and fast rules that apply to the human heart.

I totally agree, i just understood first that her Dom decided what she was.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Take a look at all the submissive vs slave debates and you'll have your answer. 

Exactly. I identify myself as a submssive, however I fit what some here would label as a slave. So, I gather that the people that put that in their profile are open to talking to people that identify in either role.