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Figging training... - 10/5/2007 8:52:26 AM   
seangrey


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Status: offline 		Can someone with some experience, Dom or sub tell me the comparative intensities of Vicks vaporub, Icy Hot, ben gay, cinnaman oil, peppermint oil and of course, Ginger root.  Ive used vicks on myself to test and I will the others too before I use them in a scene, but I'd like to get some idea of what we are in for...
thanks for your responses...
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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:08:38 AM   
AEslaveM


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Status: offline 		As a slave, and having had experience with figging....... For me, it was incredibly intense.  i felt a burning sensation that was warm and cool at the same time.  It was one of the most erotic experiences i have ever had, as it seemed to intensify ALL the sensations i was experiencing at the time. 

Orgasm while using the ginger was an OMG moment or six hundred, and i was able to enjoy the intensity and longevity of the orgasms much more than with anything else i have ever used.  i was also able to enjoy many more orgasms than is usual, or maybe they just all blended into one non-stop?  i was very into the play, and took much longer to come "down" from the high...............

Wasn't real sure about the whole thing in the beginning, but now.....................YAY!  :)

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:10:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		1.  If you are a dominat, then having it tried on yourself first is the only realistic way for you to gauge.
 
2.  If you are a submissive, and concerned about it, try them on yourself first.
 
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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:16:32 AM   
seangrey


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Status: offline 		Thank you for your response, have you ever tried any of the other salves etc. that have been recommended for training?

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:23:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		i have used cinnamon and peppermint oils...........both tend to burn, and both tend to increase the sensation, and both seemed to last a long time after, (hours and hours) even with careful and thorough washing.  The ginger didn't have the same aftereffects, lasting only a short time, an hour or so.  i liked the short period of time that it lasted after better.............Ben Gay on my knees burned like hell, and i washed it off immediately....................wouldn't go there with using it on tender moist areas........Have only used the Vick's where it belongs, and never tried IcyHot..............

Hope this helps...............

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:24:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		No idea and can't help you, seangrey.  But very interested in the replies you get :)

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:33:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		FWIW, I personally enjoy ginger root and close-up toothpaste....no, not at the same time.  I've heard some pleople say that both of those are fairly intense, but I'd call them "moderate" in intensity. 
 
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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 9:36:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I remember reading that figging was used as part of a spanking.  It stopped the spankee from clinching their ass cheeks.

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 10:11:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: amelliagrace

1.  If you are a dominat, then having it tried on yourself first is the only realistic way for you to gauge.
 


1) no one feels everything the same way
2) a non-masochist can get an idea of how a non-masochist is going to react to a pain sensation, and vice versa, but a non-masochist has no concept of how a masochist interprets a pain sensation...
3) the only time i think a Dominant "should" try something on themselves is to hit themselves with a new impact impliment so they know how hard gives what sensation...also with some sensation impliments (you really don't want to start off with breaking a hip with a sjambok because it doesn't "look that bad" or cutting an artery because it doesn't "look that sharp")....otherwise....it varies from person to person and their personal choices...neither way is right or wrong...


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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 10:42:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chellekitty
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ORIGINAL: amelliagrace
1.  If you are a dominat, then having it tried on yourself first is the only realistic way for you to gauge.


1) no one feels everything the same way
2) a non-masochist can get an idea of how a non-masochist is going to react to a pain sensation, and vice versa, but a non-masochist has no concept of how a masochist interprets a pain sensation...
3) the only time i think a Dominant "should" try something on themselves is to hit themselves with a new impact impliment so they know how hard gives what sensation...also with some sensation impliments (you really don't want to start off with breaking a hip with a sjambok because it doesn't "look that bad" or cutting an artery because it doesn't "look that sharp")....otherwise....it varies from person to person and their personal choices...neither way is right or wrong...


Perfect assessment - especially the two points highlighted.

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 10:44:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Figging can be used as part of *anything*.................makes the sensations wild!  :)

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 10:59:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty
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ORIGINAL: amelliagrace
1.  If you are a dominat, then having it tried on yourself first is the only realistic way for you to gauge.


1) no one feels everything the same way
2) a non-masochist can get an idea of how a non-masochist is going to react to a pain sensation, and vice versa, but a non-masochist has no concept of how a masochist interprets a pain sensation...
3) the only time i think a Dominant "should" try something on themselves is to hit themselves with a new impact impliment so they know how hard gives what sensation...also with some sensation impliments (you really don't want to start off with breaking a hip with a sjambok because it doesn't "look that bad" or cutting an artery because it doesn't "look that sharp")....otherwise....it varies from person to person and their personal choices...neither way is right or wrong...


Perfect assessment - especially the two points highlighted.


It's true that pain is a personal experience, but I still agree with grace's point of view.  Example.  I made a pair of electrified nipple clamps (bipolar and channel separated so don't go off on the below the waist crap) anyway, I tried them on myself first and by doing so, I realized there is a very small window between the level where they can be felt and where they are intolerable.  I've got pretty tough nipples (at least compared to my wife) so, if I had used them on her without trying them out first, I would have probably been served with divorce papers.  By trying stuff yourself, you're gaining knowledge even if you don’t fully understand the experience of your sub.

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 11:01:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		that was covered in point 3...

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 12:39:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		ohhhhhhh figging with ginger root i hate that

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 12:54:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		okay... prolly a dumb question but what the heck is figging?

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 1:50:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		i dont know about any of the other stuff. but i've put icy hot on my balls and niples right before the vac bed i was in got turned on and it hurt like hell. but felt so good at the same time....

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 2:36:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

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1.  If you are a dominat, then having it tried on yourself first is the only realistic way for you to gauge.
 


1) no one feels everything the same way So very true.  What trying several related things on yourself does is provide a general idea of which might be too tame to bother with, or too extreme for a particular P/pair.  It can also provide a general idea of how the items compare relative to each other.  I tend to take it as a given that everyone knows "no one feels everthing the same way".
2) a non-masochist can get an idea of how a non-masochist is going to react to a pain sensation, and vice versa, but a non-masochist has no concept of how a masochist interprets a pain sensation... Good point.  JMO, a Dominant who knows their submissive, and who knows how there submissive reacts to various sensations and situations, can, in fact, get a general idea of how their submissive might react to a new stimulus - provided they themselves know what type of sensatin it is.  One Dominant friend of mind, upon trying a violet want on his own arm, knew right away that one it would work well with one of his subbies, and be an NG with another.  The one he was sure woudln't like it wanted to try it anyway...only to admit immediately that "Master knew best", lol. Trying yourself and extrapolating based on what you know isn't 100% accurate, but, then, nothing is, and I believe it is probably a lot better than that pulling a guess out of thin air.
3) the only time i think a Dominant "should" try something on themselves is to hit themselves with a new impact impliment so they know how hard gives what sensation...also with some sensation impliments (you really don't want to start off with breaking a hip with a sjambok because it doesn't "look that bad" or cutting an artery because it doesn't "look that sharp")....otherwise....it varies from person to person and their personal choices...neither way is right or wrong...  Good points again, but ones I tend to think any Dominant worth two cents be aware of to the point that they go without saying.


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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 2:41:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Figging" is the practice of taking a finger (one "branch" off a "hand" of ginger) of ginger root, peeling it, cutting a retention notch all the way around, and inserting it into the anus.  The juice creates a burning sensation, which can be intense, but usually dissipates rapidly after about the 20 minute mark.  Ginger juice in the ass, vagina, or urethra also acts as an aphrodisiace in some individuals.  Aged ginger usually creates greater sensaton.
 
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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 2:42:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		ignorance is not stupidity and sometimes being made aware of reality is all that is needed to aliviate ignorance....

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RE: Figging training... - 10/5/2007 3:17:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all very much for your insights.  I have always not used a toy on a sub unless I have used it on myself.  Especially impact.  as I know that this will cause no harm and I will have no way of interpreting the sensations caused I may let myself off of the hook.  I tried the vapo rub it killed me but was only an 8 to her.  and she loved it.  I'm still listening but thanks for the advise so far.

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