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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 2:34:43 AM

SusanofO

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Sorry to hear that. We all have our cross to bear. LOL

- Susan

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 2:40:14 AM

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If I crossed a bear...

I'd likely hump him.

eww new thread, saskwatch fantasies MMmmmm.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 2:47:52 AM

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A new kind of pet play?

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 2:49:45 AM

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that reminds me that I should shave my legs soon, me thinks when I walk I'm attracting crickets. OOooO

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 2:59:12 AM

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Ohoh. I'd do that. Unless you want to attract a Sasquatch. They like that, you know...to each their own.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:06:24 AM

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u bad

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:08:05 AM

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Well I try, hehe.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:12:59 AM

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Nobody is up yet. Wish I could have one night of decent sleep.

if that guy kidnapped me an tied me up, I'd sleep like a baby. LOL

I don't drive or have a car though

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:32:35 AM

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I gotta go to bed, soon, too, or I will be a wreck tommorrow. Try reading a boring book, or soft music. Sometimes that works for me. I know it's a drag to not be able to sleep.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:33:35 AM

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tomorrow is today now lol

you are gonna be a hurtin, and not in a good funners way either.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 3:59:04 AM

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I'm wondering if the OP had ever even seen a photo of the submissive prior to the meeting? The reason I ask is, how does he even know that the 'hot' woman that showed up at his house proclaiming consent and disappointment was the original intended kidnappee? I think it odd to show up just to say how unhappy they were- and if the hubby was planning something unsavory or without the wife's consent as a set-up; what better way to insure that the OP does not follow up on it with authorities or hinder future plans of the same ilk than produce a female to play the part of the willing 'victim'? Maybe I just watch too much TV- but something seems really off here.

BTW, great advice offered on this thread...thanks to all who contributed; a lot of food for thought provided.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 6:16:59 AM

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If they're the type to behave that way over a delayed or altered session, think what they'd do after a heavy session if one of them suddenly decided they didn't like something you'd done. Or maybe they're into revenge as well - you'd be taking a huge risk.

It sounds like a really great scenario, but I wouldn't play it with anyone I didn't know well.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 7:49:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sadisticmaster03

I am glad too, just to much pressure and I have learned if it does not feel right, then go with it. Thanks for all the great replys. Better safe the sorry. SM03

You are so right SM03! Dominant men can be in danger in ways - who could imagine? What those total strangers requested was very fishy indeed.

Glad you are fine and only wasted your time. Plus, - at least they only called you a fake - they coulda bonked you over the head, stole your watch and wallet, tossed you in a ditch and drove off with your car - onto the next vic.

Gee. It is a damn shame this has to be so complicated.... I am serious.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 8:17:59 AM

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My thoughts on this...

When ever I meet with anyone (man or woman) I require a recent photo, psyical address where we will be, and phone number. All of those things are checked (ie: if the person looks completely different than photo, address is wrong when I arrive and so on) then the meeting doesnt happen. Yes, I have had that happen a few times. Due to a very bad encounter I now add the following rules...no first meeting bondage, first hello always done in a public place, and I set a schedule for a series of phone calls that I will make (like 30 mins after I arrive and 1 hour there after..).

To me this woman wanting to meet you, let you "carjack" her and keep her in bondage for 48 hours (which seems a bit extreme and maybe dangerous to me) when shes never met you before is really whacky. I will agree with those who said she had another motive behind this. It is unsafe for her, because she doesnt know you and had no saftey measures in place, and unsafe for the OP because there was a clear lack of them understanding why he needed consent.

Good job on letting your feelings be your guide, if its doesnt feel right just dont do it.

As for legally, *IF* proper consent was given then there would have been no crime. WITH consent its borrowing a car and so on. But without consent, can we say maditory life in prison for kidnapping...

Again, good job.

I have a ton of kidnap fantasies, I am just to chicken....my thoughts are that some things are better left as fantasies.

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 8:39:54 AM

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come4u,

The husband sent me pictures of his wife, the three refrences I called said she was hot and loved bondage but the bondage sessions were never more the 4-6 hours a day. All of the refrences said the couple was very cool but playing the hostage thing - never heard of them mention it. I think the idea of a bondage/hostage for 48 hours is very cool but I have to know the couple first and have played with them to have a history. A first time scene without proper meeting and just a total take down may be a great rush and a hot scene but if the couple/person is not real or a fake, I would be in a load of trouble and I love my bondage but I am not going to enjoy it behind bars. that is the bottom line. Thanks for everyone's execellent comments. Without your writing of wisdom I may have thought with my other head which should not be confussed for your brain. SM03

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 11:36:44 AM

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quote:

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come4u,

The husband sent me pictures of his wife, the three refrences I called said she was hot and loved bondage but the bondage sessions were never more the 4-6 hours a day. All of the refrences said the couple was very cool but playing the hostage thing - never heard of them mention it. I think the idea of a bondage/hostage for 48 hours is very cool but I have to know the couple first and have played with them to have a history. A first time scene without proper meeting and just a total take down may be a great rush and a hot scene but if the couple/person is not real or a fake, I would be in a load of trouble and I love my bondage but I am not going to enjoy it behind bars. that is the bottom line. Thanks for everyone's execellent comments. Without your writing of wisdom I may have thought with my other head which should not be confussed for your brain. SM03

This is going to come out really snotty, and for that I apologize, but it needs to be said.

Extremes like this on a first time encounter -- from either the bottom OR the top side -- point to a lack of tangible RT experience, a missing sense of self-preservation (or a wish to spend time in prison), or a disconnect between fantasy and reality. No trust established with all parties lends itself to a risk that in my mind, for either party, far outweighs the cheap thrills of pulling off the scene.

What's next? Having a backyard BBQ with a slave on the spit, just because they asked for it?

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RE: need some help, legal question..... - 8/23/2007 1:02:22 PM

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I agree. Does anybody really have to mention that: If you tie someone up, and throw them in the back seat of a car in broad daylight (or even night-time) - how many potential witnesses are just walking around on the street, potentially seeing her like that?

If you're in any kind of town area, and driving any distance (even a short distance), you're probably gonna have to stop at a red light or two, along the way. She was going to just be in the back seat - all tied up and blind-folded. Not in the trunk.

What are the chances anybody seeing her tied up and blind-folded - might just decide to call 911, using a cell phone, and stating the OP's license-plate number? If I saw someone like that in a car, I might call the cops myself.

What were this couple -just plain idiots?

- Susan

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