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Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:13:36 PM   
Elorin


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Last night M put me in the leather singlesleeve (armbinder) and set a goal for me: Do X activity for 10 minutes while in the singlesleeve.

The activity had the sole purpose of getting me adjusted to wearing the singlesleeve. No, I take that back. X activity had a purpose too, though I'm not sure why I should practice it with no prospects in site. Anyway.

How do you feel about an activity just for the purpose of enduring longer periods of time in bondage or other restraints? Do you like training activities that aren't along the lines of "I like X done Y way" and practicing, but have slightly different goals?

Would you feel this was a scene, or do you view "training" activities as a separate category from scening?

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:21:16 PM   
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I think it "is" (and signifies) whatever the two of you make of it. 
 
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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:24:14 PM   
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What my relationship is to me and my partner isn't the question. I know what we are, what we did, and what it meant. I was looking for other opinions and experiences to share, to see if others enjoy the same things.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:26:02 PM   
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Sorry, I read it as a request for opinions about what the two of you engaged in.  My bad.
 
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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:38:56 PM   
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I think you need to be much more specific to elicit any type of an intelligent answer.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:45:41 PM   
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I think you need to be much more specific to elicit any type of an intelligent answer.

M told me to strip. He put on a leather armbinder around my arms (behind my back) in a rather strict position.

He told me to stick my tongue out and lick a doorknob for 10 minutes.

Then we were done. That was all there was to it. It wasn't S&M, there was no sex, there was no orgasm. It was 10 minutes of training in a particular discpline. Learning to wear the armbinder for 10 minutes at a time (which will be increased as time goes on) and learning to do something he wants me to become better at. I.E. sticking out my tongue for lengths of time. I'm learning endurance for oral pleasure, apparently, although I didn't realize I needed "training" at it.

For me, a scene is normally associated with a much more active role on the part of the dom, rather than just putting me into bondage and leaving me there. I found this to be exactly what M called it - training and discipline - rather than a scene.

Was wondering if anyone else engages in similar forms of training, or if they would feel it was a scene if they shared this.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:49:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elorin

How do you feel about an activity just for the purpose of enduring longer periods of time in bondage or other restraints? Do you like training activities that aren't along the lines of "I like X done Y way" and practicing, but have slightly different goals?

Would you feel this was a scene, or do you view "training" activities as a separate category from scening?


I do see training and different from scening.

When I am training my mind is in a different place and I will step in and make adjustments or order things repeatedly done until done correctly. I watch like a hawk and I guide every step.

When I scene I'm focused more on me and my enjoyment of the moment or activity. I'll notice if things are done as I want but I'll merely ask "is that the correct way to that, slave?" and expect it to be fixed immediately.

I think if a dominant expects a certain level of activity or a particular endurance then they are wise to help the submissive learn slowly to get to that desired level. Simply expecting it is a set up for failure, I hate failure especially in relationship matters.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 3:55:56 PM   
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girl is a little perplexed, girl saw that a question was asked but no framework expressed for the answer, once an answer was offered to original question, girl was certainly surprised at the originator's reply.  girl thinks if one does not wish an answer one should not ask questions

girl also thinks that to address the point that training is different from scening ...Why ? well...

training ...is designed to teach and instruct..mostly on how to perfect being more pleasing  in all girl does and is
scening ...is to give pleasure to a Master..Mistress...or Free person and to be as pleasing as girl could possibly be

girl has also found that there is never a sole reason for being instructed to do something...as there are always many levels to a lesson ..some obvious ..such as aquiring a skill ...some less obvious ...as obeying...following commands to the letter...girl's place being reinforced...so many to name

girl thinks that the original post held some uncertainty as to why the activity was commanded....and that it was felt that to do an activity is wholly dependant on the rewards or being useful in the future.....girl knows that if commanded it will always be done no matter what the reason and without question, whether or not it will be repeated.

thank Y/you A/all for letting girl write and that Y/you read this

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:06:53 PM   
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swift
Thank you for your input. Were I a full time slave or even sub, my opinions on things would be very different than they are. As it is, I did not intend to convey uncertainty about why the activity was assigned - M explained it to me afterwards to make sure there was no confusion - or that there has to be a purpose to any assignment.
I certainly, however, wasn't asking anyone to define my relationship or it's significance to me, as the first response seemed to do. While many at collarme seem to be asking for perspective in which to define their own relationship and it's significance, I was simply trying to find out how others go about such things and if they consider training sessions to be scenes or not.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:17:15 PM   
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I think it was training for a scene.  Which can be very useful for people who do a lot of scenes.  As well, discipline in one area tends to blend into an overall sense of discipline.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:22:48 PM   
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I think it was training for a scene.  Which can be very useful for people who do a lot of scenes.  As well, discipline in one area tends to blend into an overall sense of discipline.

I'd say training for future scenes, plural...but yeah, I agree with that point of view.
Overall sense of discipline and overall sense of power exchange were two of the reasons given to me for doing the training. Regular practice of our power exchange keeps it fresh and a priority instead of letting it go by the wayside and only be engaged for play parties or scening.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:23:38 PM   
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girl thinks the difference between training and scening was highlighted in previous post and does not wish to bore T/those by repeating.

girl also thinks that girl is a little confused, perhaps because like most things in life, there needs to be a context in which questions are discussed, as this helps to focus and target the answer given, as in most situations success is greater with clear concise communication......prevents assumptions being made....this os probably why T/those answering tend to put answers in the context of how it was intended to be answered....so not to seem as to make assumptions

well wishes and thank Y/you for letting girl post

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:32:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elorin

M told me to strip. He put on a leather armbinder around my arms (behind my back) in a rather strict position.

He told me to stick my tongue out and lick a doorknob for 10 minutes.

Then we were done. That was all there was to it. It wasn't S&M, there was no sex, there was no orgasm. It was 10 minutes of training in a particular discpline. Learning to wear the armbinder for 10 minutes at a time (which will be increased as time goes on) and learning to do something he wants me to become better at. I.E. sticking out my tongue for lengths of time. I'm learning endurance for oral pleasure, apparently, although I didn't realize I needed "training" at it.

For me, a scene is normally associated with a much more active role on the part of the dom, rather than just putting me into bondage and leaving me there. I found this to be exactly what M called it - training and discipline - rather than a scene.

Was wondering if anyone else engages in similar forms of training, or if they would feel it was a scene if they shared this.

Elorin,
thanks for sharing your experience.   Personally I'm not sure I would find this appealing, but having the limited experience I have.. take that for what it's worth.  Did he stay and watch?  LOL I guess if I were putting on a show, I might find it more interesting.  From my limited experience (pulling mostly from memory) something like that would always be followed by an active scene.  I didn't use those words to describe it though... just good ol' "hot sex" back then.  
Just my humble opinion,
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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:36:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: octavia
Elorin,
thanks for sharing your experience.   Personally I'm not sure I would find this appealing, but having the limited experience I have.. take that for what it's worth.  Did he stay and watch?  LOL I guess if I were putting on a show, I might find it more interesting.  From my limited experience (pulling mostly from memory) something like that would always be followed by an active scene.  I didn't use those words to describe it though... just good ol' "hot sex" back then.  
Just my humble opinion,
oct

I was blindflolded, but M was in bodily contact with me frequently throughout the training and I could hear him moving about the room throughout. I can't say he watched the entire thing, but he did stay in the room and keep encouraging me.

Would whether it was followed by sex make a difference to how you felt about doing something like this?

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:43:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: swift

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girl thinks the difference between training and scening was highlighted in previous post and does not wish to bore T/those by repeating.

girl also thinks that girl is a little confused, perhaps because like most things in life, there needs to be a context in which questions are discussed, as this helps to focus and target the answer given, as in most situations success is greater with clear concise communication......prevents assumptions being made....this os probably why T/those answering tend to put answers in the context of how it was intended to be answered....so not to seem as to make assumptions

well wishes and thank Y/you for letting girl post

girl swift



Domiguy thinks that it would be nice if "girl" would stop putting "girl thinks" in front of every Goddam sentence....We understand that "girl thinks" this and that....Domiguy thinks that if "girl" continues posting in this manner it is going to get pretty fucking tiresome.  Soon no one will give a fuck what "girl thinks" at all.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:45:41 PM   
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Well, yeah, of course, but don't you think her greeting is cute?




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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 4:54:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elorin

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
I think you need to be much more specific to elicit any type of an intelligent answer.

M told me to strip. He put on a leather armbinder around my arms (behind my back) in a rather strict position.

He told me to stick my tongue out and lick a doorknob for 10 minutes.

Then we were done. That was all there was to it. It wasn't S&M, there was no sex, there was no orgasm. It was 10 minutes of training in a particular discpline. Learning to wear the armbinder for 10 minutes at a time (which will be increased as time goes on) and learning to do something he wants me to become better at. I.E. sticking out my tongue for lengths of time. I'm learning endurance for oral pleasure, apparently, although I didn't realize I needed "training" at it.

For me, a scene is normally associated with a much more active role on the part of the dom, rather than just putting me into bondage and leaving me there. I found this to be exactly what M called it - training and discipline - rather than a scene.

Was wondering if anyone else engages in similar forms of training, or if they would feel it was a scene if they shared this.


I have asked subs to do various things even though not in my presence.....Maybe the guy just wanted 10 minutes of peace and quiet...Maybe he's going to introduce you to a woman with a humongous clit....I have left women tied up while I took care of other things....It would seem that if you have trouble licking for ten minutes....Then maybe this would help...I dunno.

Most things that are taught...Is where there is an exact correlation between the action being taught to the sub and a desired affect that will be reached from those lessons.

I think he was looking for a 10 minute break.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 5:01:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy
I have asked subs to do various things even though not in my presence.....Maybe the guy just wanted 10 minutes of peace and quiet...Maybe he's going to introduce you to a woman with a humongous clit....I have left women tied up while I took care of other things....It would seem that if you have trouble licking for ten minutes....Then maybe this would help...I dunno.

Most things that are taught...Is where there is an exact correlation between the action being taught to the sub and a desired affect that will be reached from those lessons.

I think he was looking for a 10 minute break.

Thanks for your perspective.
I figure if he wanted a 10 minute break he'd have left the room for the 10 minutes.

Why is it when someone shares something in their experience and looks to see if others do it, the question is so often translated to mean "Why did my partner have me do this?" I'm not confused about why M did what he did, but boy it seems like people think I am.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 5:01:34 PM   
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Well, yeah, of course, but don't you think her greeting is cute?





Domiguy thinks it's cute...But highly manufactured....I prefer a grainy pic...Half her head lopped off...Not some over produced shot...Especially if there is only one pic in their profile.....I seem to always get a slight whiff of cock from those types of profiles.

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RE: Discipline training - 7/15/2007 5:07:36 PM   
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girl giggles at the fact that domiguy knows what a cock smells like.

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