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RE: Jamestown - 5/4/2007 5:27:09 PM   
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Out of interest, what is the alternative economic system?



You've got me there, lazy thinking! LOL I guess I meant anything that significantly  degrades or curtails the financial and political power of those that hold power now through the puchase of politicians. And I think politicians are bought and seduced, they are on average too vain and intellectually weak to resist it.

I'm so out of practice with English I can't write a sentence without the need to correct myself.


MC, I wasn't trying to haul you over the coals, I was genuinely wondering what you had in mind.

Personally, I think thatcher bit off more than she could chew - she gave power to corporations and the media in return for unwavering support thinking that she could control them, but before she could turn 'round, they had totally swamped the government. Blair is bound by this system established by thatcher.

The economic system needs politicians to step out of the shadows and take control. Otherwise, it's a free for all where the likes of corporations run the show for their benefit. The trick is to elect politicians who believe they are accountable to society - easier said than done when a significant amount of the population have been seduced by consumerism.

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RE: Jamestown - 5/4/2007 5:34:17 PM   
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The economic system needs politicians to step out of the shadows and take control. Otherwise, it's a free for all where the likes of corporations run the show for their benefit. The trick is to elect politicians who believe they are accountable to society - easier said than done when a significant amount of the population have been seduced by consumerism.


It would be great to have some mavericks in Parliament but now parties judge everyone on their party loyalty, conformity and timidity in standing up for beliefs rather than the party leadership. It is difficult to see another Tony Benn or Tam Dyell(?) ever getting into Parliament.

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RE: Jamestown - 5/4/2007 5:36:59 PM   
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The economic system needs politicians to step out of the shadows and take control. Otherwise, it's a free for all where the likes of corporations run the show for their benefit. The trick is to elect politicians who believe they are accountable to society - easier said than done when a significant amount of the population have been seduced by consumerism.


It would be great to have some mavericks in Parliament but now parties judge everyone on their party loyalty, conformity and timidity in standing up for beliefs rather than the party leadership. It is difficult to see another Tony Benn or Tam Dyell(?) ever getting into Parliament.


Tony Benn I resigned from Parliament to concentrate on politics.

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RE: Jamestown - 5/4/2007 5:42:42 PM   
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LOL Yep. That was statement is so so true. Politics is far too important to be left to politicians.

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RE: Jamestown - 5/4/2007 5:58:32 PM   
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The old witch.


Now really, NG. She doesn't call you names.

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RE: Jamestown - 5/5/2007 6:33:41 AM   
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The old witch.


Now really, NG. She doesn't call you names.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NW0a3HdY1E&mode=related&search=



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RE: Jamestown - 5/5/2007 6:43:47 AM   
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To quote Eddie Izzard:
 
"The royal family is living proof of why it's a bad idea, when cousins marry."
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
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