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Aswad -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/21/2007 3:38:48 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Elorin
Aswad, the only part that bugs me is bisexual men wanting to be called gay. ~chuckles~
Yeah, I get that. I'd have a big problem with it myself, being all pedantic about language, correct definitions of terms, equivalence of intentionally stating something false and lying, and so forth.
For them, though, I imagine the bit about being called "gay" is associated with that term being derogatory in their mind, at least on a subconscious level, possibly through the male social conditioning issues.
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Your question about bisexuality is frustrating for me, but this is why. I define someone's sexual orientation based on who they are attracted to, and who they find sexually arousing. When I say I think someone is bisexual it is because both genders are attractive and sexually arousing to them. Since my first post made it clear that women do that for them yet they want to call themselves gay, personal frsutration. ~s~ But that's just me.
Sorry to be frustrating you. [:D]
I'm probably sexually compatible with both genders, but I'm not emotionally compatible with men in a romantic sense, and I know a few others that are the same way, although most are attracted in both ways. I've heard of cases where this was inverted.
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They are attracted to both men and women, both men and women turned them on when we started. Personally, I think that it is a situation of bisexuality being internally denied, and then HAVING to be admitted, and leading to an exaggeration.
Quite possibly. If you'd like some help in picking their brains, I'd be glad to help. [:D]
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However, I will state that my slave daphne claims that he now has no desire to have sex with women, is not turned on by women, and cannot get hard when thinking about or viewing women unless something else he fetishizes (scat play or a woman making him suck a man's cock) is involved.
Rather interesting. I do know that sexual orientation can be reconditioned, and this can happen unintentionally, although it is also possible that he didn't have the attraction in the first case and hasn't realized that until now. For men, at least some men, the activities themselves can provide arousal that is distinct/seperate from the arousal of the interaction. Perhaps something like that could have caused him to not realize this stuff until now?
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The desire for me to tell others is different for them. With daphne, [...]
Seems sensible enough.
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With stephannie, she can't get out of the fantasy mindset. She likes listing the names of women who know her secret as she masturbates. Which is funny, because my mom is one of them. ~LOL~
[:D] I would definitely feel a bit wierd at the thought of someone masturbating to the idea that my mom knows something about them.
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I do occasionally find other women who I can mention stephannie to because of this, but she has never stopped asking me to tell everyone I know about her secret, no matter how much I've said "it would be sexual harrassment for me to mention you to my co-workers."
Yeah. There sometimes is a small core of truth to the idea that the blood for erections comes from the brain. Some men seem to shut down their rational thinking when they're aroused, at least partially. I know I used to do so back in the most hormonal teenage years, although I haven't done so since.
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I would say that they have strong fetishes, yes. But I wouldn't say it is unusual, from what I know of other sissies, crossdressers, and forced bi fetishists.
Okay, I'll add that to my notes. [:D]
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I never desired to psychoanalyze their fetishes.
Sometimes I can't help myself, sorry. [8|]
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