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DommeEva -> gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 3:23:56 PM)
Hello A/all! I have a male cd who is seeking gay training. Now I will admit my stupidity in this subject as I've never had a request for this before. And anything I search for pretty much turns up a bunch of video's and junk that really don't pertain to the subject. Can anyone help me out with some ideas? Or can someone direct me to a website that can maybe help?

stef -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 3:37:38 PM)
I suppose that all depends on what you mean by "gay training." What exactly are you looking for? ~stef

kc692 -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 3:38:30 PM)
I'm confused also.....maybe a male gay master should be training him?

LadyHugs -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 4:04:41 PM)
Dear DommeEva, Ladies and Gentlemen; Gay training can be a subject to great many assumptions. Being a male cross-dresser doesn't automaticly make them "Gay." If it is on a sexual nature--that is more like Bi-sexual exploration but, in of itself doesn't mean they are Gay. In addition, you have to find a Gay male who is willing to take on a cross dresser. Until there can be more specific areas of training that you can list, the advice given can be very limited. Just some thoughts. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

Casie -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 4:09:09 PM)
What exacally do you mean? I think your question could be interperted many differnt ways. Maybe if clearified better it can be better awnsered

thegunslinger -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 5:18:32 PM)
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DommeEva -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 5:20:18 PM)
That is the seeming problem. The cd that I session with simply stated "I want to be gay trained" and left it at that. She does have a sort of fantasy where she is in her male clothes then stripped to find that she is dressed as a sissy underneath. My ideas would be along the lines of a butt plug and possibly "forced" sucking of a strap on?

hereyesruponyou -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 5:36:51 PM)
I didn't know you could be "trained" to be gay.....

Domin8tingUrDrmz -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 5:52:29 PM)
You could do the strap on thing, or if he really wants a 'gay' experience you could find another person to bring into your sessions (male dom or sub). If it's a male dom, ask him to train him as he sees fit, if it's a male sub make up any scene you wish.

HutchGarahl -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 6:06:50 PM)
You can't train someone to be gay. Good grief. Homosexuality, be it completely gay or bisexual, is something your born as. You can't wake up one day and say.."Ok, i'm gay' and be that. shakes head

mp072004 -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 6:25:12 PM)
Might you ask your playmate who wants "gay training" to tell you what "gay training" means to hir? That seems more effective than our guessing at its possible meanings. If zie wants to learn to be a good sex partner for men, then perhaps some fellatio instruction is in order--you could do it with one of those glorious new injection-molded dildos that are made of silicone that feels as realistic as cyberskin. Do you think the "gay training" is independent from or related to the crossdressing and gender play? Most of the men I know who like to have sex with men aren't crazy about male-bodied crossdressers or MTF trans, for what it's worth. Monica

DommeEva -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 8:16:11 PM)
Thank you to everyone who has responded. HutchGarahl I was not implying that I was training her to "be" gay. It is a fantasy that she has, and I was looking for constructive ideas for a scenario. Its sorta like a rape fantasy, typically women do not want to actually be raped but they do fantasize about it.

HutchGarahl -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 8:21:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeEva Thank you to everyone who has responded. HutchGarahl I was not implying that I was training her to "be" gay. It is a fantasy that she has, and I was looking for constructive ideas for a scenario. Its sorta like a rape fantasy, typically women do not want to actually be raped but they do fantasize about it. Oh ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding then. So he wants to know what it's like to bed with a male? Simple...2 ways....get another guy in, have him screw your male, you male screws him, they each suck the other...or you could use a strap on with him yourself. Have him suck it and you screw him.

CuriousLord -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 8:51:46 PM)
Is this a male you're talking about training as gay, and you're referring ot him in the feminine since he's to adopt a female role, or is this a female, and you're using "gay" as in "homosexual"?

biru -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 8:55:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeEva That is the seeming problem. The cd that I session with simply stated "I want to be gay trained" and left it at that. She does have a sort of fantasy where she is in her male clothes then stripped to find that she is dressed as a sissy underneath. My ideas would be along the lines of a butt plug and possibly "forced" sucking of a strap on? Ma'am, I think that would be a good place to start, but for myself, while I quite enjoy sucking a Mistress with a strap-on, it's no replacement for the real thing. If you have any other subs that are willing to participate, that would be good. Other than that, you probably need to bring in a gay master. Things that I think I would enjoy: being bound with another male (especially if there is penetration involved or a bound 69), forced blowjob, verbal abuse (there are lots of degrading terms for homosexuals; use them)... I hope that helps. b

MzMia -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 8:57:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeEva Hello A/all! I have a male cd who is seeking gay training. Now I will admit my stupidity in this subject as I've never had a request for this before. And anything I search for pretty much turns up a bunch of video's and junk that really don't pertain to the subject. Can anyone help me out with some ideas? Or can someone direct me to a website that can maybe help? We tend to have endless and I do mean endless threads on "forced bi males",[;)] look at the thread going on Ask A Mistress, it is about 10 pages long and growing. Many love to chat about this, they normally consider it "forced bi" or "forced cocksucking", many males here love it and will gladly submit. You should get 100s of offers. Good luck!

Elorin -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 9:05:01 PM)
This is something that has bugged me for YEARS. I have two different long term, long distance relationships with crossdressing subs. Both of them wanted me to "turn them gay" or wanted to tell me how they are gay. BOTH of them are bisexual. They are attracted to women, and women turn them on, they like sex with women. However it is for some reason a turnon/fetish for them to have to say out loud "I am gay" "I am homosexual" as well as ~dingdingding~ I like to suck cock. They also BOTH want me to find myriad other women and tell them all about my "gay sissyboys". Neither identifies as a female - both identify as males, and crossdressers. One of them likes to use the female pronoun when crossdressed, the other doesn't. Training basically included sucking dildos, being fucked with dildos, talking about how they would get fucked by a strapon and/or by another man and/or by transexuals (MTF). They both want me to tell them about how they are going to suck a real cock, bend over and take cock in the ass, never get close to a woman's pussy again, never get to fuck a woman again, get laughed at for being sissy fags. Both have elaborate fantasies of parties of women laughing at them as their homosexuality is revealed and they willingly (not reluctantly) suck live cock in front of the women. That's my experience. Feel free to e-mail if you want to know more. ~E

CruelMistrezz -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/17/2007 9:30:45 PM)
Frankly it sounds as though your slut is looking for humiliation via cross dressing and bi-sexual acts. For him I can only assume "Gay Training" means anally raping him with a strap-on and or teaching him how to suck a cock by using a strap-on. Treating him like a cunt to suck and be fucked. If one of his hard limits does not include same sex that is also a possible route. Heavy verbal humiliation is key here as well. Remember though many sissy sluts do not view themselves as bi-sexual and from those Ive trained would never be sexual with another male unless a Dominant woman is there. Hope this helps. MsPatty

DommeEva -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/19/2007 7:07:52 PM)
Curious Lord, I am referring to a male who prefers to be referred to in a feminine sense by me. "she" is a cross dresser and I typically do not see her in male form if you will.

Aswad -> RE: gay training help needed! (4/19/2007 7:50:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HutchGarahl You can't train someone to be gay. Good grief. Homosexuality, be it completely gay or bisexual, is something your born as. You can't wake up one day and say.."Ok, i'm gay' and be that. Actually, unpopular as what I'm about to say might be, this simply isn't the case. [8\|] Sexual and emotional reconditioning is possible from any orientation to any other orientation, provided the subject is willing and the person performing the reconditioning has the necessary qualifications and trust relationship. I'm all for LGBT (heck, I'm probably bi myself), and think it's wrong to even suggest that someone should undergo reconditioning. But I'm also all for personal freedom, and if someone wants to change the physical and/or emotional aspect of their orientation, then that's their choice. I seriously don't get why people go all medieval on the few pdocs that have this kind of expertise and trustworthiness, provided they don't try to push it on anyone. Aren't options all good? I do get why some would be incredulous, though. While I'd personally see it as a cop-out if a non-straight person became straight to lower tensions with an ass-backwards family or religious community, I don't see that I have any business with how they choose to make their tradeoffs. Similarly, if a straight person is madly in love with a person in a poly- or endogamous relationship where the group only accepts bi members, I don't see what's wrong with reconditioning to bi, if that'll make this person happy. YMMV. Usual disclaimers apply. Flames directed at nearest gravitational singularity.

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