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i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:03:43 PM   
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Not a big deal - i think - at the moment.  She went out for abit (as they usually do) and i had school work to do and i noticed it was POURING.  Not only that but lightening and thunder oh my.  Snow was already in - and amazingly frightened.  Nothing spooks that cat, like i always say - you can run a car over him and he'd look at you with the face of "what?? cant you see i'm sunbathing here?"  He is currently under my bed.  My little witch Nadia keeps thinking she's going to go out in the storm (as i travel door to door in my house whistling and calling for my cat).  She generally spooks easy and is amazingly not frightened of the storm.

And my poooooooooooor demented, brain damaged cat is out IN the storm.  Ack.  I'd grab an umbrella and go out looking for her, but i dont think getting struck by lightening will help anyone.  i'm sure she's fine, but its not like Snow who practically owns my neighborhood or my clever wicked little Nadia. 

Where the heck did that dumb cat go?  She rarely leaves my side and she like never leaves my yard.  Why cant she be like my other non demented cats and realise its time to come inside when it rains?? (yes thats rhetorical) 

i figured i'd make the public announcement that i am missing my cat.  (and i'm passing time waiting for the storm to pass so i can wander around and locate her)  Anyone know if demented cats are smart enough to get adequete shelter in rain?  Hopefully she hasnt gotten superbly frightened and gotten lost - cos that will be one LONG walk at midnight.

::wanders off grumbling about demented cats while she checks all the doors again::


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:05:04 PM   
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She is probably out lookin to back into a little pussy (know whadda mean vern?)


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:06:50 PM   
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She is probably out lookin to back into a little pussy (know whadda mean vern?)


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:07:20 PM   
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She'll be fine hun, she'll find some sort of shelter and wait it out.

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:13:52 PM   
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Ah ha!  Busying myself writing this post paid off.  She's home = )  Left the garage door partially open (with the door to the house shut) and i went to check and wala there she was.  Hollaring and meowing at me and soaking wet.  She's been properly towel dried and fed chicken. 

Damn demented cats!  <grins>  Atleast she saved the neighbors, cos i really dont think they appreicate me hollaring and whistling all over the neighborhood at this time of night. 

Mist - with my other cats i would naturally expect them to find shelter and be okay.  With her, you never can tell.  Ya know, the other day she came zooming into my kitchen, slammed into a kitchen cabinet and then went zooming out the back door. 

Ron - she's a female cat.. i seriously doubt she's out looking for any action.  Plus i've a dog that likes to lick and a male cat that has no problem cleaning up his sister.......  since they're all fixed i dont really worry bout it other then to tell them that the A) the kitchen isnt an appropriate place B) neither is my bedroom and C) find a room.

Now i can relax before bed.  yay!


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:19:24 PM   
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glad your cat is back  or should i say pussycat

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:22:31 PM   
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She'll be fine hun, she'll find some sort of shelter and wait it out.


Is that what the teenagers are calling it this year?

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:30:36 PM   
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oh hey - anyone hear about the 15 foot gator some guy found in his garage down here in Florida?  Can you imagine?? 

ya know i had a dream last night about my dog walking up to a siberian tiger and trying to make friends while i screamed at my dog to "get back here RIGHT NOW" - absolutetly certian the tiger would swallow my dog whole.  I, of course, woke up before dinner was served....... (and i clearly remember wondering where the heck did all the "training" had gone with my dog!!)

i wonder if it means that sometime in the future one of my critters is going to be meeting up with an overly large animal that will eat it?  Like a 15 ft gator.  Cos i know, that if there was one in my garage and i stumbled on it, the dog would be dead. 

heres a pic of another gator caught down here....... the $%# is huge!!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/Riotgirl_photo/ShowLetter.jpg


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:32:21 PM   
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thanks me too minnetar - i seriously did not want to be walking around my neighborhood at this time of night.  

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:43:07 PM   
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oh hey - anyone hear about the 15 foot gator some guy found in his garage down here in Florida?  Can you imagine?? 
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/Riotgirl_photo/ShowLetter.jpg


The gator in that photo is of a decent size, but is not much over 13' if that.  The perspective as compared to the walking man is skewed because of the camera angle.  Head proportion to body and general morphology indicates an older animal that has lived through seasonal periods of not eating so well and not basking at really optimal temps.  So Texas would be my first guess on locality.   Florida would be my next guess in the mid to upper range of the state, but Florida gators are usually a little different on the head morphology.  It's a climate and diet thing.

There are a buttload of crocodilian photos going around the Net with incredibly stupid stories and inflated numbers attached.  They are teh funneh. 

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:43:41 PM   
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this girl apologizes for trying to be funny when you were concerned.  Glad your concern has been relieved.

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:46:33 PM   
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Glad to hear she's back home!

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:54:51 PM   
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Good to know Najak!  This is the story that accompanied the email my mother sent me....

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The alligator was found between Lake Istapoka and Pinedale estates... near a house , Game Wardens were forced to shoot the alligator- guess he wouldn't cooperate. Jayne and Don Hobkirk could hear the bellowing in the night. Their neighbors had been telling them that they had seen a mammoth alligator in the Lake that runs behind their house, but they dismissed the stories as being exaggerations. "I didn't believe it," Don Hobkirk said. Friday they realized the stories were, if anything, understated. Florida Game and Parks game wardens had to shoot the beast... Joe Goff, 6' 5" tall, a game warden with the Florida Game and Parks Commission, walks past the 23-foot, one inch alligator that he shot and killed in the back yard of Jayne & Don Hobkirk...


here's some other pics........ (from the same email)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/Riotgirl_photo/Sho1Letter.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/Riotgirl_photo/ShowwLetter.jpg

Thanks for disproving (or not) the pics as i find it much more comforting to know that there are not gators that size running around here.  Any chance you could tell me if its possible to save your own life if you ever get snagged by a gator?  I've this theory that if a gator ends up grabbing my leg, that if i can reach up and pluck its eye balls out - out of pain, the gator will release me.  Master says its impossible.  But its the only vulnerable spot that i can think of and if a gator grabs me while i'm walking around.......... there's got to be something one can do other then say "oh well, i'm dead"
 
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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 9:56:06 PM   
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this girl apologizes for trying to be funny when you were concerned.  Glad your concern has been relieved.

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I actually missed the joke.....  humour is always good. 


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:00:59 PM   
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there's got to be something one can do other then say "oh well, i'm dead"


Well, there's always the Act of Contrition.

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:17:48 PM   
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Well, there's always the Act of Contrition.


oh man that is too funny.  


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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:19:09 PM   
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Well, there's always the Act of Contrition.


oh man that is too funny.  



I wasn't sure anyone would get it.

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:25:27 PM   
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oh man that is too funny.  



I wasn't sure anyone would get it.


i had to put my head down on the desk and have a chuckle

lmao.........  any last words?




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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:25:47 PM   
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The alligator was found between Lake Istapoka and Pinedale estates... near a house , Game Wardens were forced to shoot the alligator- guess he wouldn't cooperate. Jayne and Don Hobkirk could hear the bellowing in the night. Their neighbors had been telling them that they had seen a mammoth alligator in the Lake that runs behind their house, but they dismissed the stories as being exaggerations. "I didn't believe it," Don Hobkirk said. Friday they realized the stories were, if anything, understated. Florida Game and Parks game wardens had to shoot the beast... Joe Goff, 6' 5" tall, a game warden with the Florida Game and Parks Commission, walks past the 23-foot, one inch alligator that he shot and killed in the back yard of Jayne & Don Hobkirk...


I thought Snopes might be helpful, and it was.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/gatordeer.asp  This is not the same animal as in the prior photo.  Totally different morphology.  I guess all gators look alike to most people.  LOL

As for this image:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/Riotgirl_photo/ShowwLetter.jpg

Click here: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/wcgator.asp   Looks like I was bang on with the locality and the length estimate.  Gator populations have pretty distinctive head morphology, and it's not hard to eyeball gator length based on general body conformation.  No idea where the crap in the email came from.  Obviously somebody with no life made it up.

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Thanks for disproving (or not) the pics as i find it much more comforting to know that there are not gators that size running around here.


You're in Florida?  That's theoretically where you'd see some of the largest due to climate and diet, but in practice you don't really see them much over 14'.  Not that an extra foot matters if any adult crocodilian gets hold of you. 

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Any chance you could tell me if its possible to save your own life if you ever get snagged by a gator?  I've this theory that if a gator ends up grabbing my leg, that if i can reach up and pluck its eye balls out - out of pain, the gator will release me. 


No, you're pretty well fucked in that situation. 

You may be able to trigger the jaw opening reflex by tapping the nose repeatedly (too much force is not necessary here and is probably counterproductive), or a sideways snap by tapping the side of its mouth, or an aversion/backup response by rubbing the ear flap.  Crocodilian eyes telescope down beneath hard scales when touched, so it's pretty pointless to muck around there with your hands.  You will actually get better results with tantalizing little taps than with full on whacks.  The gator is not going to be much impressed by any amount of force a human can generate, and you will trigger its jaw opening reflexes much more readily with the lighter and more rapidly repeated stimulus. 

If someone can get a pole under the lower jaw to lift the head, you can back the animal up and keep it from moving forward.  If you're the one in the gator jaws and there is no one around to help wrangle the gator, you are seriously fucked.  If it was me I'd keep trying to trigger the jaw pop reflex by repeated light raps to the end of the nose, interspersed with just enough rubbing and tapping around the eyes to keep its eyes retracted in the down position.    I would absolutely not touch or mess with the animal's body to avoid triggering the "death roll" reflex or the animal's whipping around with a chunk of me still in its jaws.  That would be extremely bad news.  Whatever limb an adult crocodilian is holding may not remain attached to you if it rolls. 

But it would suck and you really don't want to be in this position.  Fortunately you probably won't be unless you do something abysmally stupid.  American alligators are pretty slow moving and they're not hard to avoid.  Don't go swimming in places you can't see clearly, don't feed or tease wild alligators and you'll be fine.  Most unpleasant human encounters with wild animals are entirely the human's fault and entirely avoidable with minimal common sense.

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RE: i am missing a cat - 4/11/2007 10:38:32 PM   
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any last words?


Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, an English poet, reportedly expired just after saying "It has all been most interesting." I've always rather liked that.

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