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SirPain -> Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:36:41 AM)

I ask this question because when I logged off I found a statement requiring my date of birth and "signature."  I wonder how much of this information is being turned over to the government so they can track all us kinksters.




ModeratorEleven -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:43:19 AM)

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

XI




pahunkboy -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:43:37 AM)

every site u ever landed on is on ur harddrive- but then so is every one else...




MsJesse88 -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:44:05 AM)

If not talking about aything illegal, one shouldnt care since we all know if gov wants to keep track of it they will , simple as that. Far as that page, not like I gave real name or birthdate, I mean who would? Not their business[;)]




pahunkboy -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:49:00 AM)

in case you dont know it- the Mod was joking.    :-)

i can however tell you, i have a brother who works in IT, and records are turned over left and right to the feds. he said my head would spin if i seen what they ask for- and what his place of employment voluntarily discloses........




Invictus754 -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:49:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

XI


OMG...that is so funny.  Thank you for the great laugh!




Invictus754 -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:51:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

every site u ever landed on is on ur harddrive- but then so is every one else...

There are ways of fixing your harddrive.  Like, a 12 pound sledge usually fixes up the issue of urls which may be questionable.  It is the ultimate disc cleaner.




mnottertail -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:52:59 AM)

quote:

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.
XI


So that is what everyones name is in color for, what is puce level?






farglebargle -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 11:57:37 AM)

Go google the Klein deposition in EFF v. AT&T. Then go read the sales flyers for the network taps referenced. The EFF has it online, so just hit their site.

It's clear from the publicly available ( unsealed ) documentation from the case that EVERY bit which transits AT&T's backbone is copied to the feds. I presume they store it, then use non-realtime data analysis tools to slice and dice as desired.

If AT&T is doing it, consider the likelyhood of other ISPs doing it on their backbones.

There's no need to look on your harddrive. All your browsing is archived anyway.





shadevarr -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:00:08 PM)

Having worked for ISPs, only the major ones are capable of storing all traffic for any significant amount of time. Usually when the feds want to know something, they will come in and install their own equipment to monitor a particular person at the ISP level.




farglebargle -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:03:06 PM)

Go read the documentation in EFF v. AT&T.

I'm not speculating. They're doing it. Period.





pahunkboy -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:07:12 PM)

lots of good posts here,.

Hey Mod 11; my parrot watches my every move- he is perplexed when i spit my coffee all over- per reading your post!!!!

I never seen you- quite in this mood. :-D

I recall- 1 post that was a grabber-  the free bj post.....[topic meant to remind posters of forumn rules]

you ROCK!




Anarrus -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:15:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

XI


Maybe I'm paranoid..but why does Dept. of Homeland Security sound more like a branch of the SS in Nazi Germany than it does an organization to protect those living in a democracy?




mnottertail -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:19:20 PM)

Why does the department of homeland security want to sell this site to b.com?
Is the government going to outsource sex?  Oh, hell no.

Conspiracy Theorist




pahunkboy -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:19:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anarrus

quote:

ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

XI


Maybe I'm paranoid..but why does Dept. of Homeland Security sound more like a branch of the SS in Nazi Germany than it does an organization to protect those living in a democracy?


funny- i been thinking that myself,.  what the heck..."homeland" ....why/so it seems we valued UNSECURITY pre 9-11 ???

in 1 regard- this is the "war on crime"   ten fold.  ---and yet another "war" that can never be measurably won.

throw in secret laws, i recall a judge telling me "ignorance is no excuse for not folllowing the law"- ok- cool- but now we have "secret laws".???

gag me.  frikken GAG ME

*ducks; as kgb man passes by*




Marc2b -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:22:34 PM)

quote:

All of it. We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

Excellent! Let’s move the current bunch of toe jam sniffers out and take over the department. I’m sure we could do a much better job. We’ll put LuckyAlbatross in charge of record keeping (she’s always excellent at looking things up). Popeye has military experience so we’ll put him in charge of the Fast Response Commando Team. Mnottertail and Gooddogbenji are always good with cleaver comebacks so we’ll put them in charge public relations. As for me, I’ll secure all our military contracts – baby needs a new yacht, if you know what I mean. I’ll leave it to others to figure out the rest of the staffing.




pahunkboy -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:26:14 PM)

LMAO @ marc2b.  :-D




popeye1250 -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:32:06 PM)

You know, I always thought Pa Hunk sounded a lot like Barney Frank!




Anarrus -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:37:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Why does the department of homeland security want to sell this site to b.com?
Is the government going to outsource sex?  Oh, hell no.

Conspiracy Theorist


Rumor has it that a subsidiary of Haliburton runs the best lil whorehouses in the "homeland"!
Perhaps Cheney will confirm this.




Real0ne -> RE: Has the Government reach into collarme? (3/16/2007 12:37:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

All of it.  We're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Department of Homeland Security.

XI



Whew!  for a second there i was worried




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