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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 7:14:45 PM   
slaveluci


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I've been reading your thread Shylahgirl.. and I'm at a loss as to what you are expecting?
 
Do you wish no feedback on anything you share other than a positive response?  No discussion..no other insights?
Do you  just want a resounding "KEWL!!! YOU GO GIRL !!" even if someone sees you might be standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train?
 
Here's a secret.. all the old timers have BEEN 20!


hello LotusSong,
i'm actually the party responsible for using the term "old timers" and as i told BountyHunter, no disrespect was intended.  i'm a little past 20 - 34 actually - and i know what you mean about having been that age and learning alot since then.  How true.  i don't think she wants only positive feedback or no discussion.  The way i read it was that, EVEN IF OTHERS HAVE INSIGHT TO OFFER, it doesn't have to be done in a condescending, judgemental way.  Rather than saying, "Here's the way to do it," perhaps she's seeking something more along the lines of "well, something i've learned is........"    JMHO, slave luci

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 7:46:58 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I've been reading your thread Shylahgirl.. and I'm at a loss as to what you are expecting?
 
Do you wish no feedback on anything you share other than a positive response?  No discussion..no other insights?
Do you  just want a resounding "KEWL!!! YOU GO GIRL !!" even if someone sees you might be standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train?
 
Here's a secret.. all the old timers have BEEN 20!
I ageree with Lotus on all old timers have been 20..do not forget that even if an oldtimer has less experience in WIITWD than you...LIFE experience does count for something.....as for your horror at confrontation...personally confrontation sometimes is a good thing, much info can be had out of it,new insights gained,and if you like not, then simply do not pay attention to what it is you dislike..but confrontation has and always will be a part of life, it will simply be up to you as to how you process and deal with it.....Tempting

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 8:23:54 PM   
WhiplashSmile


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Status: offline 		I'm a little puzzled about Old timers being 20, let me do some personal math.  41 take away 13, and you get 28.  For the last 28 years BDSM in some way shape or form has been a part of my life.  At different degrees and various levels Ranging from plain old bed room kink to not.

I think there's room for everybody who's into BDSM under the BDSM umbrella.  I too find confrontation can be a great thing.  It can make you think and grow as a person.  I actually will embrace anothers point of view or side, and defend others as well.   I do have a limit when it comes to somebody being closed minded to the point they are simply being mean and cruel, or are trying to hi-jack the whole concept of BDSM.  For instance, I'm certain many would revolt at the thought of making BDSM fit the complete difinition of the Gorean lifestyle.   The Gorean lifestyle is simply a thing which has it's place under the umbrella.   Both master and slave relate and the lifestyle suits their needs.   What can be wrong with that.   One the other hand, if somebody only serves as a part time slave does not mean they are not a real slave.  Because when they step inside that role, they are acting and serving the function of a real slave.  However after play time, or when they are at work, they are not acting as the role of slave.    Let's say, if a Master is an Electrician by trade.  Is he not still that when he comes home and unwinds from a day of work?  Should everybody start proclaiming him anything less for not doing his job function 24/7.  

I'm just thowing out some food for thought in regards to how some people treat other people, under this same umbrella.  OK hell, even the people which are into the kinky BDSM sex activities are into BDSM.  After all they are not having Vanilla sex are they?  is there no room for them to be welcomed here as well. 
 
 
  
 
 
 
    

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 8:27:58 PM   
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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 9:22:38 PM   
ncmaster75


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Status: offline 		I agree that people tend to judge and label other people way to easily.  On the internet if you say that the sky is blue someone will swear that it is purple! 

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 9:47:19 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Very few times in life does someone have a watershed moment of change in viewpoint or opinion.
Life simply seems to work much slower and mre gradual than that. So I debate the possitions I have currently always kinda hoping someone will drop a nugget that will slightly shift my opinion. Took years to get to them and I expect them to slowly change over the next years.

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 9:47:47 PM   
juliaoceania


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I love my lifestyle.

I am a 24/7 submissive and very proud of it. I have served Master for a year and four months. I love to play and have fun. I am young but very experienced for my age. 


It is always nice to read people that are happy and satisfied with their lives.
 
 
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I feel, and this is my personal opinion, that BDSM and in particular D/s is very spiritual for those involved. BDSM is about finding the joy in life and living life. (Once again my opinion) <--- Why do I feel that I have to state that?

 
I can completely relate, I feel that being in a D/s relationship is deeper and more spiritual for me than my previous vanilla relationships. The difference between us is that I do not mind stating that is my reality, and that other relationships are just as fulfilling as my own that are vanilla relationships. I do not mind being clear because I write to be understood. Not that I am always successful in this

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After talking to several people and messaging back and forth with a few in some posts I have done, I've gotten the impression that a lot of people take the lifestyle and themselves way to seriously.
 
Why is that? 

 

 
I think that you are the one taking things seriously, you are serious enough about your opinion to start this thread. Being serious is not a bad thing, it is just a personality trait. The world needs serious people. I would also state you are assuming emotional content to other people's posts that may or may not exist... in other words, they might not be serious at all, just expressing their opinions the same as you are doing here on this thread.

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Such as that obvious opinion of some of, “That’s not my opinion or experience, so it can be right. I must do all I can to change this persons opinion so that they understand the ‘true’ way to do it” Why?
 
I have not had as many experiences as some and I have had more experiences then others.


 
Here you seem to be entirely serious about being taken seriously by older people or more experienced people


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But I wonder why when someone states what they believe about the lifestyle the way they live it there always has to be someone to point out what is wrong about what they said or how they said it, example: “If you’re a ‘real slave/sub’ you wouldn’t talk about this’” What is a “real slave/submissive” and what is a real “Master/Mistress”? What is the one thing that any “true slave/submissive” has that makes them a”true” what ever? What is a “true Master/Mistress” what makes them a “true” whatever?
 
Why is it that some people in the lifestyle can’t seem to let others shear there personal opinions or thoughts/feelings with out coming back with how what they are stating is wrong?


I love learning about how other people live. I do not like reading how they are better, truer, more than other people because they live a certain way. They are entitled to their opinion of their own superiority, I am entitled to point out I do not agree with them. Now my opinion has merit to me, just as theirs has merit to them.


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When I see these things it makes me sad that we have to be so sepret and yet still we clam the label of a community, when we can’t even let other members of the community shear what they believe with out at least one person making a personal attack?
 
I know I will get shit for this. But once again I will state these are my personal thoughts and observations. I may be wrong, I may be right, but I hope I’m wrong.
 
Shylah


 
I have belonged to many communities and I have stood up for my opinions in real life as well as online. I was anti-war before most others were, I am against racism in my real life community too. I do not see in my real world practical experience that I have to agree with hatefulness or bigotry because some of my community is hateful and bigoted. I am not the type to just sit quietly while someone shits all over another person for how they live.. for example someone espousing the opinion that all slaves are mindless doormats will get a response from me deriding that opinion.. and saying "it's only an opinion" does not wash with me.

I am not flaming you, nor am I pissed off about this thread. I think you had a few valid points... older people can be assholes, and the one true way crap is tiresome.

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/8/2007 11:10:36 PM   
Shylahgirl


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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

hello LotusSong,
i'm actually the party responsible for using the term "old timers" and as i told BountyHunter, no disrespect was intended.  i'm a little past 20 - 34 actually - and i know what you mean about having been that age and learning alot since then.  How true.  i don't think she wants only positive feedback or no discussion.  The way i read it was that, EVEN IF OTHERS HAVE INSIGHT TO OFFER, it doesn't have to be done in a condescending, judgemental way.  Rather than saying, "Here's the way to do it," perhaps she's seeking something more along the lines of "well, something i've learned is........"    JMHO, slave luci


Thank you for understanding :)


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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/9/2007 12:05:14 AM   
azzmaster


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Status: offline 		its natural for people with more experience to feel more in authority... about ANYTHING, not just BDSM. it seems 2 me a better strategy to spend energy finding those people that share ur world view than worry about those who do not. I find, at least in the NYC area, that the people i run n2 in lifestyle functions share alot of common beliefs about BDSM culture, but the people on these boards seem more diverse and argumentive... strange

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RE: Questions that I know many people will be piss off ... - 3/9/2007 2:45:28 AM   
mons


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yes we do take it seroiuly but your still young one day you may understand and no one will give you shit for your opion

mons

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