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New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 5:02:28 AM   
onestandingstill


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recalcitrant - marked by stubborn resistance to authority; "the University suspended the most recalcitrant demonstrators"
defiant, noncompliant - boldly resisting authority or an opposing force; "brought up to be aggressive and defiant"; "a defiant attitude. I'd not heard it before.
I thought maybe others would like to see it too.
As words and terms seem to matter so much in this BDSM world, I'm surprized I've not seen this word used.
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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 7:21:09 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		LOL my first master used recalcitrant on me all the time. 

I wouldn't consider it synonymous to "topping from the bottom" though.  Plenty of doms can be recalcitrant and non compliant.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 7:26:27 AM   
CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

LOL my first master used recalcitrant on me all the time. 

I wouldn't consider it synonymous to "topping from the bottom" though.  Plenty of doms can be recalcitrant and non compliant.


Tsk, tsk...LA, dominants are NEVER recalcitrant and non-compliant.  We're simply right all the time and that tends to make submissives see us as recalcitrant and non-compliant..................

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 8:00:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not all topping from the bottom takes this form. It can be much more subtle than defiance. Sometimes the dominant is unaware it is even happening

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 8:06:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstill


recalcitrant - marked by stubborn resistance to authority; "the University suspended the most recalcitrant demonstrators"
defiant, noncompliant - boldly resisting authority or an opposing force; "brought up to be aggressive and defiant"; "a defiant attitude. I'd not heard it before.
I thought maybe others would like to see it too.
As words and terms seem to matter so much in this BDSM world, I'm surprized I've not seen this word used.
suzanne



a fancier word for Daddy to use instead of hardheaded to describe me when i get that way with Him.

i like it


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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 8:53:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

As words and terms seem to matter so much in this BDSM world, I'm surprized I've not seen this word used.

I'm not sure why you're suprised, as it doesn't really describe TFTB.  TFTB is trying to manipulate the situation to produce the outcome you desire.

Apples and oranges.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:28:03 AM   
Kondolinni


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Insufferable trollop! You are really trying my patience, little one!

Incorrigible  strumpet! Go get the daily flogger!

Brat!

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:35:54 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:37:55 AM   
Mercnbeth


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New Word for Topping From The Bottom?


No need for a new word it already exists - dominant.

While were at the the word for a person who succumbs to a dominant bottom is - submissive.

Attire, titles, and labels notwithstanding.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:40:14 AM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		   I always thought that Topping from the bottom was a form of manipulation or control.   For example acting in an inappropriate manner to achieve pain through punishment or attention.  

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:49:43 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

I always thought that Topping from the bottom was a form of manipulation or control.   For example acting in an inappropriate manner to achieve pain through punishment or attention.  

Just because something exists does not make it "wrong" or "bad" necessarily. There are relationships that function well with direct topping from the bottom. What I mean by this is that the bottom and the top have agreed to the bottom giving direction to the top. It is not a manipulation in every circumstance. Now it would not go over very well in my dynamic, but I have no value judgment on what other people choose to do, if it works for them and they are happy, well it is all about the happiness, isn't it?

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 2/6/2007 9:50:26 AM >

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:52:35 AM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		It doesn't have to be a bad thing, but it is a form on control example, a bottom my control the actions of a top in a SM scene.   She has is manipulating him or controlling him in a negative fashion but is indeed controlling his action.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 9:56:35 AM   
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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 10:25:36 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why couldn't we just call them dyslexic?




Laughing at this!

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 11:07:09 AM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		I'm recalcatrant if you mean I will dig in my heels. Telling me "the sky is green and I am the dom so it must be true" will get me to defy you. Authority or not, if I know you are wrong I'm not going to lie and say you're right. I will however be oh so happy to prove you wrong.

As far as tftb, it's just information. Telling him my right nipple is too sore to touch anymore because you've been focusing only on it is info. It isn't a demand that he move to the left one or change to spanking me. It's just info that the right one can't take anymore.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 11:14:29 AM   
CrazyC


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Status: offline 		I also associated those behaviours as mental conditions. I have a tendency to do this out of gut reaction. Trust me i am far from topping from the bottom. It is just a condition where i need to be comfortable before i just follow.

Now i have been called a bitchy bottom...lmao, but that is because i am a brat.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 12:15:23 PM   
PsyVamp


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Status: offline 		When mine tops from the bottom, the word for him is "bored"  because I stop and walk away....
I find that leaving him alone, by himself, with nobody to play with cures him of the action.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 12:37:15 PM   
sexyone4you


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Status: offline 		I love it!  You can also use it to describe a brat in general.

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 12:43:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think those words describe topping from the bottom, per se.

I'm defiant and stubborn sometimes because I don't want to do something and sometimes because I'm apprehensive about doing something. I am not defiant and stubborn to elicit any particular behaviour or outcome from M.

If I WANTED to manipulate him, I wouldn't choose that route.

agirl

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RE: New Word for Topping From The Bottom - 2/6/2007 12:57:37 PM   
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