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Energy filtering - 1/29/2007 11:25:48 PM

KeirasSecret

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I’ve been a submissive for a few months now, and I have noticed that after having a session with my Dom I feel like my energies have been filtered.

He feeds off my fear, nervousness, uncertainty and any other emotions that our activities invoke...at the same time he feeds me his strength so I am able to do as he pleases; energies become filtered.

I think that energies are represented by emotions; before I met Sir, my energies were extremely muddied, and heavy, somewhat like sludge. I was a very angry person. Most everything frustrated me. I was almost always at a point close to boiling, though, I never really knew why.

Now that I’ve been an owned submissive for awhile; my energies feel much lighter, and clearer. I feel this most, just after a session, but having the memories of the sessions helps to refresh the feeling if it starts to dissipate.

So I am wondering:

Are there any other submissives here that can relate to what I’m saying?

Do any Dominants experience something similar?

I was told that TPE stands for Total Power Exchange.

If this is correct, is that what I am describing here, or does TPE have more to do with control/authority?

Be well,

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/29/2007 11:43:41 PM

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tpe generally has more to do with control and authority than with a sense of spiritual, emotional, or mental energy. that said, you'll encounter many who have experienced similar things to what you have described. i myself have. my dominant and i use energy work actively in our play, both overtly and not, but i've also experienced the type of filtering you describe as something that we don't necessarily consciously focus on in play...it is still present, though :)

edited to clarify: i meant that when most people in the lifestyle use tpe colloquially, they are referring to a giving over of one's decision-making power - one's will, from my understanding, which is different from an exchange of energies, but i think that that definition of tpe ought to be used more widely! i never thought of it that way.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/29/2007 11:59:11 PM

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i know if i am feeling frustrated or stressed or angry ... a good flogging fixes me instantly :)

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:12:37 AM

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Oh, what a yummy post!

I am soooo there! I love the energy, the way we feed one another, how absolutely WONDERFUL we both feel swirling around in that vortex, coming out afterwards breathless, sweaty and drained, but ALIVE!

Since Himself is out of town right now, I really appreciate this post and the memories I have from our last play time together. Thank you!

As for whether or not it has anything to do with TPE, for me, it holds hands with TPE but the play is not the be-all, end-all of TPE, just one of the yummy possibilities.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:17:11 AM

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Would you mind telling me how tpe works then; please?

Does it have to do more with when I first submitted to my Dom?

Also, how is the word "exchange" meant?

Be well,

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Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:22:36 AM

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i can't speak for everyone, but for me at least (and how i read it when others post it), a total power exchange is a situation in which the submissive in the relationship has given her will over to the dominant 24/7. without getting into whether or not this makes her a slave, or if she's a twue submissive or not, and all of that bs that takes up 10 pages, in a nutshell it's basically that - an exchange of one's willpower. (i use the word willpower, but it could easily be synonymous with decision making ability, etc. in t his sense). to me the distinction between a tpe and any other kind of relationship is that some relationships can be part time, just for play, scening only, that sort of thing...or even part time with service and/or play, etc. but don't have the quality of complete submission all the time, if that makes any sense.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:26:50 AM

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I can appreciate what you’re saying here, …..

but what I am talking about can have nothing to do with a physical act. It is hard for me to describe.

As soon as he walks through my front door, or he comes online; I feel it.

Be well,

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Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:28:35 AM

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i think i understand where you are coming from :) i just thought i'd offer up an answer to your original question about what the words tpe generally refer to (at least, that's how i understood your original question). i think that the issue of energy in bdsm relationships encompasses so much more than that, though, and it's not always meant to be put into words.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 12:30:22 AM

KeirasSecret

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Thank you for your response.

May I ask if you are refering to living 24/7 or owned 24/7?

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If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 4:21:00 AM

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There are Eastern philosophies that deal with the exchange and flow of energy. Tantric yoga and sex, all flowing from Hinduism as well as Chinese medicine all have similar models of the body having energy centers. Often called Chakra and commonly thought of as having seven centers in the body. The energy itself is called Kundalini. Taoist thought has similar imagery and if I remember correctly is some of the basis and origin of the skills for men to climax and yet control and prevent ejaculation.

I am only the most casual of students of this and have done some reading about Tantric and Toist practices. But the West has never been good at any of this and the Eastern philosophies have a much more holistic approach.

Don't forget, that cheesy bdsm sybmol is partly based on the Chinese ying/yang symbol...

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 5:33:04 AM

KeirasSecret

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Celeste,

quote:

Since Himself is out of town right now, I really appreciate this post and the memories I have from our last play time together. Thank you!

I’m glad you like it…your welcome.

I do enjoy revisiting the time Sir and I have shared together when he’s not available.

Would you mind telling me what TPE is for you?

hisannabelle,

I was asking about both….thank you.

If you are referring to your understanding of what tpe is, I would have to agree with you. I think it is the onset, that which initiates the energy flow but there’s more to it.

quote:

it's not always meant to be put into words.

I am trying to rationalize with this last part, perhaps it is my analytical mind, (Sir says I think too much), and the writer in me, but I can’t help wanting to put what I am feeling into words.

SimplyMichael,

Interesting information, I didn’t know men could do that. *smiles*

quote:

But the West has never been good at any of this and the Eastern philosophies have a much more holistic approach.

Does this mean you feel these philosophies share a foundation with what I am describing, but touch on a different area, or did I completely miss what you are saying?

Have you felt something you’d describe similarly to what I was saying?

Be well,

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It apears to me, the practice of "an eye for an eye" has finally taken it's toll; the majority are now walking around blind.

Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 5:53:08 AM

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quote:

Would you mind telling me what TPE is for you?

It's really simple for me. It's being available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to serve as he requires. I don't have any other responsibilities though. My children are adults with children of their own, so I don't have skinned knees to attend to or runny nosed ruggies to have to run to the doctor, so I have luxuries others don't.. I have the luxury of being able to have Himself be the #1 priority in my life.

There are, of course, consequences to this as well. If I'm in the middle of making dinner and he doesn't allow me to stop and turn off the stove before grabbing me by the hair and dragging me off somewhere, dinner will burn. You play, you pay.

Celeste

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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 5:59:17 AM

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I am saying that much of what we think of as new or unique isn't. As for TPE, I am not much into labels, especially ones as transparent as TPE. If "I" am TPE that implies others are less than "total" power exchange and that whole debate bores me.

I only play when and with someone with whom I feel a connection which is my word for energy and my style of play is very much mental rather than physical. A perfect example was a party I was at the other night. A couple of insanely hot subs were naked and being flogged, I took a glance but walked away bored and unhorny. A man had a woman kneeling beside him blindfolded and was simply whispering in her ear. She was clearly flying and THAT was hot for me. No motion, nothing showy going on, just the exchange of energy and it was so hot. I rarely see that at parties, and I certainly miss doing it myself.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 6:24:48 AM

KeirasSecret

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quote:

It's being available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to serve as he requires.

I wonder where this puts me. I am available as much as he wants me to be, but I wouldn't say thats 24/7.

quote:

If I'm in the middle of making dinner and he doesn't allow me to stop and turn off the stove before grabbing me by the hair and dragging me off somewhere, dinner will burn. You play, you pay.

The visual I got with this made me laugh, I tried to picture Sir doing that to me if I were cooking him dinner. He would be more likely to have me go to him crawling.

Be well,

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It apears to me, the practice of "an eye for an eye" has finally taken it's toll; the majority are now walking around blind.

Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 6:55:19 AM

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To me, what it sounds like your describing is a relationship that makes you feel happy.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 7:15:24 AM

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A 24/7 tpe exchange comes from my service in exchange for feeling I'm safe and I belong.
In scening it's that HE takes this empty vessel and fills it with full sensation, I in turn overflow with the sensation and feed my energy he created in me back to him.
In the relationship it's that he leads me like a good trusted King, and I get the security I need in following his path and choices in my life.
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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 7:26:37 AM

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We have an intense energy connection, which continues to grow. I am earning more and more about the exchange of energy between us as well. He is in my head, but I feel him in me in ways that are difficult to describe, when we are apart. It is a physical feeling, as well as emotional and spiritual. When we connect, we both feel it, and it's amazing stuff. I so often have this internal vibration that exists as an undercurrent.

There is definitely a connection of energies and as I can, I am paying more attention to it, fostering and developing it.

The label "TPE" is not that relevant to me (I've never heard him use it, come to think of it), but I will say energy exchange is as important to us as his control and authority over me is. This energy dynamic exists whether we are "playing" or just living day to day life It is part of our dynamic, and part of what enables me to do certain things for him. I wouldn't imagine it any other way.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 7:41:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KeirasSecret
Are there any other submissives here that can relate to what I’m saying?

Yes, but I don't consider it a 'submissive' thing. It happens in vanillas and doms and switches and others- it's a part of becoming self-aware, and becoming able to compartmentalize and control.

quote:

I was told that TPE stands for Total Power Exchange.

If this is correct, is that what I am describing here, or does TPE have more to do with control/authority?

Be well,

TPE is another sort of whimsical phrase that people use for whatever purpose suits them. But yes, generally that means more about the dynamic at play rather than your personal reactios to it.

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 7:43:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KeirasSecret
Would you mind telling me how tpe works then; please?

Does it have to do more with when I first submitted to my Dom?

Also, how is the word "exchange" meant?

Be well,

http://www.collarchat.com/m_103815/mpage_1/key_tpe/tm.htm#103815
TPE = Totally Pointless Expression?

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RE: Energy filtering - 1/30/2007 8:10:23 AM

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Last night, my submissive came home from her job having had a bad day. After dinner, a bath, etc. I asked her to tell me one thing she wanted from me to help her relax. She asked for a massage. I instructed her to ger on her tummy.

My submissive is both ADHD, and a sufferer of restless leg syndrome. A patience testing combination, I can assure you. Before giving her a massage, I suggested that a spanking would probably help her to calm down.

She looked at me over her shoulder and asked me how I expected something that got her wet and sexually charged to calm her down?

I pushed her back down on her tummy with one hand and quickly, sharply delivered a brief, but intense paddling to her ass with my other hand. The spanking was forceful and specific... an event spanning perhaps 8-10 seconds total elapsed time.

After, I commenced massaging her shoulders and back. After about 2 minutes I asked her to tell me how she felt about the spanking. Her response was that it did not feel good. She was pouting as she told me this. I could feel the pout in my fingers, and hear it in her voice.

Interestingly enough, as she said this to me, there was clear evidence of relaxation in her speach, which was slowed and breathy. Also, her body was motionless under my hands. All the restlessness and hyperactivity was gone.

I waited another minute or two and then re-asked my question. She reluctantly admitted that the spanking, although not what she would have requested, had renderred her deliciously relaxed. I continued the massage while I went on to engage her in a discussion of applied techniques for the expressed purpose of behavior or mood modification. She agreed it was likely I would learn ways to impose control over her emotions and mind-set as I got to know her better both as a woman and as my submissive.

From a dominant's point of view, seems to sound like what you describe.

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