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Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:03:31 AM

GirlyDevil

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Good day to all,
I have looked in other posts regarding money problems but could not find what I was looking for, so I'm gonna hopefully post one here that hasn't already been posted. I have just got a new slave and he doesn't have any money or transportation and lives with several other people. He expects me to pay for him whenever we go out, which isn't often, or to pay for movies, etc. I do not have a job, either does he, but I also have my own place and need to make rent on it. I don't have the money to take him out, or to drive across the city to get him. He's offered to pay me back, but says that when he get more money next month it will have to go toward his "rent payment". Of which he doesn't contribute anything to his house. I've talked to his roommates about it and they all seem to agree with me that yes he needs a job and yes he needs reliable transportation. I've told him to at least get $10 for his share of dinner but he doesn't have anything. He's also looking into a 24/7 but wouldn't be able to pay his share of the rent. Am I being a b*** about it? Anyone have any suggestions for it? Thank you all

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:07:30 AM

Sunshine119

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You're kidding right? It sounds like you both need to get work.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:17:09 AM

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It depends on the situation, if you cannot support him and do not want to support him...then he needs to start helping or get away from him.

Myself, I try very hard not to judge people on how much they have and do not have. But I do not want to be in a relationship with someone who cannot support himself. Grant it we all can have bad times, but if he never was able to support himself, friends is all it will be.

Is funny, I was talking to a good friend the other day and he was saying the same thing. He would love to just met a woman that was not deseperate for money. Is this the norm....so many people seem to live paycheck to paycheck with no cash in the bank as a backup. Or are we just meeting the wrong people.

hot1

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:21:21 AM

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There's this thing called.....................................employment

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:21:24 AM

MasterFireMaam

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Several points:
Lifestyle aside: learn to take care of yourself before you take on anyone else.
Look into the Rescuer archetype and see if it's working in the shadow for you.
Why aren't you requiring him to find a job before you declare him fit for service?

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:26:49 AM

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Yup.Gets back to the necessary evil.Work. Its a bummer I know but we all have to do it.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:26:41 AM

BitaTruble

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If you want to be his Sugar Mama, keep him, if you don't, dump him or just don't take him out to do stuff. (And you should remove the part of your profile where you say you'll pay for little treats and stuff like that as well.) If he doesn't have a job, does that mean he's in school? Even if he's going to school, he can get some kind of part-time job to bring in a few extra bucks for stuff. If he's not working or going to school.. just what the hell is he doing?

Your eyes are wide open on this, so you can't complain later on if you get burned.

Oh, and anytime you pay for something that he says he'll pay you back for, get it in writing that way you can prove it on People's Court. :)

Celeste

< Message edited by BitaTruble -- 1/26/2007 10:32:44 AM >

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:27:41 AM

BOUNTYHUNTER

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YOU need to look in the mirrow there you shall find a perfect example of someone used and used well.What good is a slave/sub if they can at least support them selfs or you?One rule here is YOU WILL WORK AND HOLD A JOB EVEN IF ITS A MACDONALS.OF COURSES THERE ARE A FEW EXCEPTIONS TO THIS HARD RULE.. WILLIAM

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:35:20 AM

DiurnalVampire

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It doesnt sound lke you are particulary in a position to be taking on someone who is in that great a need. A freeloader like that, which seems to be what he has been doing with friends well before you were in the picture, is not likely to change his stripes. Until he makes the effort to get a job, I would say you are barking up the wrong tree. He expects you to pay for everything, he requires you to do everything for him... it seems to me he is the one in the dominant position and you are catering to him in order to have him serve you. My advice would be find someone who in the very least can take care of himself before you worry about whether or not he'd make a descent slave.
I may not require my pets to have a fortune, and I dont expect them to spoil me rotten every time we are out. However I do expect that if we go out, he can pick up dinner if I get the movie. I do expect that if I dont feel like driving, he can come get me rather than I get him. I dont think its being bitchy to expect someone to be selfsufficient. I like having someone dependant on me, but after building the relationship to where I want and can manage that dependance. Until then, I want someone who doesnt need to be dependant, but chooses to be.

My 2 cents
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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:35:32 AM

Celeste43

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Read the paper, find the employment ads and tell him where to go apply. Do the same yourself.

But I bet even if the perfect job came and landed in his lap he'd reject it. He's a user. The people he's presently sponging off of are hopeful you'll take him in so they can get rid of him.

Get a roommate, get a job. And demand that anyone you are involved with is also self sufficient.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:38:16 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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And obviously, don't go out to things that require either of you to give out money.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:42:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hot1
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"Myself, I try very hard not to judge people on how much they have and do not have." Is this the norm....so many people seem to live paycheck to paycheck with no cash in the bank as a backup. Or are we just meeting the wrong people.

hot1

I try hard not to judge people on what they do or do not have either.....But I'm going to give this one a shot....lol.

to the op...I READ YOUR PROFILE If you have no dinero and the slave...THAT YOU DECIDED TO TAKE ON, HAS NO CASH....I can only assume that your actions were to get the slave to your residence so that you could feast(ON THE CHEAP) on the flesh of said sub to get you through the long Colorado winter. Any other actions would make little or no sense.

This is just another thread that makes you scratch your head and wonder will these people breed? Will they figure out the intricacies of copulation...and thereby add to the "fall" of civilization? Will their children be able to push the correct button to operate a ski lift or ring up a meal? I'm scared. Very scared.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:47:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

And obviously, don't go out to things that require either of you to give out money.

Yes...LA is right...don't eat...clothe yourselves...warm your residence....good luck..

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:53:58 AM

GirlyDevil

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunshine119

You're kidding right? It sounds like you both need to get work.

I've had several interviews in the past few days and may have a job starting next week but not sure yet. And please don't judge people based on facts alone, especially if you don't know the whole story

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:55:27 AM

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What attracted you to this person?

I'm not trying to imply that money is everything but I think maturity counts for a lot. Someone who doesn't have a job or isn't in school and who lives off of others isnn't mature enough (in my opinion) to get into a serious Ds relationship.

Fox was in school when we met and he had his own room. Right away he was responsible for his visits to me or getting to munches, that's how I met him after all. He never expected me to pay for him even when he started training. He appreciated my time and my experience, he didn't consider becoming a slave to translate into being taken care of financially. In fact, he correctly (in my strong opinion) assumed it would be more about him taking care of me.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:58:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil

And please don't judge people based on facts alone, especially if you don't know the whole story

Yes, facts are worthless and are totally lost on us.

We only live in fantasies.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:58:47 AM

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To me financial stability is one of my biggest concern when it comes to relationships. I don't waste my time on a person who isn't financially stable and isn't interested in becoming financially stable. Not to mention if the person has run bankrupt it's even a bigger petpeeve of mine..guess it answers my your question about what I'd do in the situation.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:59:36 AM

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Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here, but let me start with the usual disclaimers:

I'M A WELL KNOWN CRACKPOT. IF YOU ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING I SUGGEST, YOU'RE NUTS! SERIOUSLY.

Now, here's what you do(tm):

1) Call the bitch up and tell him he's yours now, 24/7/52.

2) Then go get a dog crate JUST TOO SMALL for him to sit on haunches comfortably. Think "Stress Position". You want it to be essentially high enough for his torso, head and hips, but his arms and legs will be in funky positions.

3) Lock bitch in crate until they agree to go by the rules. If it's sized right, they'll BEG to be beaten.

3.1) Don't beat them yet

4) FIRST RULE: This is a shock collar. It hurts like a sumbitch. HERE, LEMME SHOW YOU!

5) Now that you're done twitching, Back in the crate.

6) Real soon now, their bladder will fill up. Tell 'em you'll zap 'em if they pee in the crate.

7) Their discomfort at this point should be delicious. Enjoy. I suggest getting some ice cream, and relaxing for the show.

8) Ok, they're BEGGING to be let out to pee. Let em, but into a bedpan or something. Have them discard waste, clean bedpan, back in the fucking crate, bitch!

9) By now we've established the basic pattern of torture and abuse. Lather, Rinse, Repeat... ALWAYS REPEAT.

10) EVENTUALLY, they'll be begging to go work at Mickey-D's. Do not let them. Continue abuse and torture until they BEG for a job at wal-mart, where you can take advantage of that sweet, sweet employee discount...

11) With your 1st paycheck, bitch, I'm buying you a bicycle.

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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 10:59:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunshine119

You're kidding right? It sounds like you both need to get work.

I've had several interviews in the past few days and may have a job starting next week but not sure yet. And please don't judge people based on facts alone, especially if you don't know the whole story

Heck your on collarme. If you ask for advice, expect it in all forms, good and naughty. Criticism or not but you will have to take it if you dish it.
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RE: Money Issues?? - 1/26/2007 11:02:19 AM

GirlyDevil

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

If you want to be his Sugar Mama, keep him, if you don't, dump him or just don't take him out to do stuff. (And you should remove the part of your profile where you say you'll pay for little treats and stuff like that as well.) If he doesn't have a job, does that mean he's in school? Even if he's going to school, he can get some kind of part-time job to bring in a few extra bucks for stuff. If he's not working or going to school.. just what the hell is he doing?

Your eyes are wide open on this, so you can't complain later on if you get burned.

Oh, and anytime you pay for something that he says he'll pay you back for, get it in writing that way you can prove it on People's Court. :)

Celeste

I have been thinking about dumping him since in my mind he isn't doing anything. If I do show up on People's Court I'll let you know :)

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